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	<title>Comments on: (Not) Cool Surge Portable Air Conditioner</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Desert Dweller</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-1017819</link>
		<dc:creator>Desert Dweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the ad letter mailed to me, was  puzzled by the vague claims and did the web research to find out that this is basically a swap cooler. . . . a portable one and rather pricey at that. Down here in the desert southwest, swamp coolers are fairly common as they work well in a dry climate . . . but only in the early summer months before the monsoon rains arrive. 

For $300, you can get a real swamp cooler . . . 2" X 2" X 2" metal cube that sits outside, fits into the duct work and belts out cold air. Yes, something of that size can really cool down a small house. Aspen wood pads work better than the paper ones and smell nice, too. Most "real" desert people know how to change their own pads, adjust float levels, etc. It's like a classic car in terms of basic maintenance. 

Nothing wrong with swamp coolers, per se, as they are cheaper to run than conventional AC. But this one is overpriced (similar portable units on eBay for around $80) . . . and all swamp coolers loose their cooling effectivness fairly quickly as atmosperic humidity levels rise. That's why you hardly ever see them used outside of dry desert environs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the ad letter mailed to me, was  puzzled by the vague claims and did the web research to find out that this is basically a swap cooler. . . . a portable one and rather pricey at that. Down here in the desert southwest, swamp coolers are fairly common as they work well in a dry climate . . . but only in the early summer months before the monsoon rains arrive. </p>
<p>For $300, you can get a real swamp cooler . . . 2&#8243; X 2&#8243; X 2&#8243; metal cube that sits outside, fits into the duct work and belts out cold air. Yes, something of that size can really cool down a small house. Aspen wood pads work better than the paper ones and smell nice, too. Most &#8220;real&#8221; desert people know how to change their own pads, adjust float levels, etc. It&#8217;s like a classic car in terms of basic maintenance. </p>
<p>Nothing wrong with swamp coolers, per se, as they are cheaper to run than conventional AC. But this one is overpriced (similar portable units on eBay for around $80) . . . and all swamp coolers loose their cooling effectivness fairly quickly as atmosperic humidity levels rise. That&#8217;s why you hardly ever see them used outside of dry desert environs.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeguy</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-998077</link>
		<dc:creator>justsomeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike47- it's just as likely that the marketing people are morons too.  Some other people designed and made and the marketing moron said "Yeah, that makes sense."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike47- it&#8217;s just as likely that the marketing people are morons too.  Some other people designed and made and the marketing moron said &#8220;Yeah, that makes sense.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PutnamEco</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-996378</link>
		<dc:creator>PutnamEco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't you want to pay even more for one for your golf cart?

.http://www.swampy.net/golfcartairconditioner.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you want to pay even more for one for your golf cart?</p>
<p>.http://www.swampy.net/golfcartairconditioner.html</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne D.</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-995715</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, make your own.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-12V-Air-Conditioner---Cheap-and-easy!/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, make your own.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-12V-Air-Conditioner---Cheap-and-easy" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-12V-Air-Conditioner&#8212;Cheap-and-easy</a>!/</p>
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		<title>By: rg</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994851</link>
		<dc:creator>rg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHASE 1:  Place ice packs in freezer

PHASE 2:  ?

PHASE 3:  Profit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHASE 1:  Place ice packs in freezer</p>
<p>PHASE 2:  ?</p>
<p>PHASE 3:  Profit</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994401</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they don't show fake-Amish people greenscreened onto a factory scene building these things :-p

cl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they don&#8217;t show fake-Amish people greenscreened onto a factory scene building these things :-p</p>
<p>cl</p>
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		<title>By: Old Coot</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994304</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Coot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Barri said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Barri said.</p>
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		<title>By: Galadriel</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994218</link>
		<dc:creator>Galadriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...they put "a fan blowing over a bowl of ice" into a box, and charge $300 for it?  Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;they put &#8220;a fan blowing over a bowl of ice&#8221; into a box, and charge $300 for it?  Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994186</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For that price you could buy a real portable air conditioner unit! I cannot believe this company can stay in business with ads that are so misleading. I'm sure CR's review of it will cut into their business</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For that price you could buy a real portable air conditioner unit! I cannot believe this company can stay in business with ads that are so misleading. I&#8217;m sure CR&#8217;s review of it will cut into their business</p>
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		<title>By: Barri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to contact BOSE and use their marketing deparment. They have been selling over priced under peforming products for years and as long as it is marketed right there are always people to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to contact BOSE and use their marketing deparment. They have been selling over priced under peforming products for years and as long as it is marketed right there are always people to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike47</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994158</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave P : Yes, many are.  Most, however, are simply uneducated in basic physics.  Marketing people understand this, and craft advertising to take best advantage of the fact.  That's why lots of these worthless pieces of junk will be sold to unwitting individuals, who are impressed with the claims made.  Buyer beware.  (P.T.Barnum was right; There's a sucker born every minute.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave P : Yes, many are.  Most, however, are simply uneducated in basic physics.  Marketing people understand this, and craft advertising to take best advantage of the fact.  That&#8217;s why lots of these worthless pieces of junk will be sold to unwitting individuals, who are impressed with the claims made.  Buyer beware.  (P.T.Barnum was right; There&#8217;s a sucker born every minute.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Place some ice packs in front of a $20 fan and you have the same effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Place some ice packs in front of a $20 fan and you have the same effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave P</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2009/07/13/cool-surge-portable-a/#comment-994085</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhh, basic thermodynamics.  Energy used to lower the temperature of gel packs is radiated into the house by the coils on the back of the fridge.  Motor used to blow air over the frozen gel packs radiates more heat into the air. 

The energy taken from the air to thaw the gel packs is less than the energy required to freeze them.  Plus the heat from the motor = net gain of heat in the house.  

Are people just stupid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhh, basic thermodynamics.  Energy used to lower the temperature of gel packs is radiated into the house by the coils on the back of the fridge.  Motor used to blow air over the frozen gel packs radiates more heat into the air. </p>
<p>The energy taken from the air to thaw the gel packs is less than the energy required to freeze them.  Plus the heat from the motor = net gain of heat in the house.  </p>
<p>Are people just stupid?</p>
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