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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with metis.  I have staggered studs on 2/6 plates, and also built double walled media rooms (better and easier).  Fiberglass between the walls.  actual double walls are better because there is no conduction through the top and bottom plates.  It is easier to place the bats between t 2 walls than to serpentine them through a staggered stud wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with metis.  I have staggered studs on 2/6 plates, and also built double walled media rooms (better and easier).  Fiberglass between the walls.  actual double walls are better because there is no conduction through the top and bottom plates.  It is easier to place the bats between t 2 walls than to serpentine them through a staggered stud wall.</p>
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		<title>By: CGC Comic Books</title>
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		<dc:creator>CGC Comic Books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Los Angeles Plumber Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los Angeles Plumber Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Toolmonger ? Blog Archive ? Isomax Clips Help Soundproof A Room  By Benjamen Johnson  If you want to stop machine noise from leaving your shop or prevent noise from entering your media room or bedroom, these simple and relatively inexpensive Isomax clips will help attenuate unwanted sounds, without taking up a lot of &#8230;   Toolmonger: The Week In Tools - http://toolmonger.com/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Toolmonger ? Blog Archive ? Isomax Clips Help Soundproof A Room  By Benjamen Johnson  If you want to stop machine noise from leaving your shop or prevent noise from entering your media room or bedroom, these simple and relatively inexpensive Isomax clips will help attenuate unwanted sounds, without taking up a lot of &#8230;   Toolmonger: The Week In Tools - <a href="http://toolmonger.com/" rel="nofollow">http://toolmonger.com/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob The Drywall Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob The Drywall Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loves me my resilent channel.   and these clips are for furring channel, I think I rambled about this in some other thread.   What's with all the interior finishing posts today day? is CGC's Dust Control joint compound up for tomorrow?

If you've got a real hankering for soundproofing, and don't mind shelling out the cash, then QuietRock simply can't be beat.  

http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietrock.html

I've used the furring channel clips, and I've used resilient channel, and all manners of batt and foam board insulation, Spray insulation is beyond excessive for sound attenuation, btw.  

Ultimately, the QuietRock is good stuff.  I've only ever installed 4 sheets of it ($40 a sheet, at a promo) but the wall is only 4 5/8" thick, with Roxul R12, and nothing gets past it, except for the subwoofer, shaking the hell out of the house. 

As it is, combine Roxul insulation, either these clips and furring channel, or resilient channel , and if you're really hardcore, 5/8ths drywall.  this will prevent most sound travel out of the room.  except for the door, which is a whole other problem.

Also, if you can, AVOID Dietrich metal products.  I find them to be inferior, made of weaker alloys and more difficult to work with, not to mention usually slightly smaller then superior brands like Bailey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loves me my resilent channel.   and these clips are for furring channel, I think I rambled about this in some other thread.   What&#8217;s with all the interior finishing posts today day? is CGC&#8217;s Dust Control joint compound up for tomorrow?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got a real hankering for soundproofing, and don&#8217;t mind shelling out the cash, then QuietRock simply can&#8217;t be beat.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietrock.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.quietsolution.com/html/quietrock.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used the furring channel clips, and I&#8217;ve used resilient channel, and all manners of batt and foam board insulation, Spray insulation is beyond excessive for sound attenuation, btw.  </p>
<p>Ultimately, the QuietRock is good stuff.  I&#8217;ve only ever installed 4 sheets of it ($40 a sheet, at a promo) but the wall is only 4 5/8&#8243; thick, with Roxul R12, and nothing gets past it, except for the subwoofer, shaking the hell out of the house. </p>
<p>As it is, combine Roxul insulation, either these clips and furring channel, or resilient channel , and if you&#8217;re really hardcore, 5/8ths drywall.  this will prevent most sound travel out of the room.  except for the door, which is a whole other problem.</p>
<p>Also, if you can, AVOID Dietrich metal products.  I find them to be inferior, made of weaker alloys and more difficult to work with, not to mention usually slightly smaller then superior brands like Bailey.</p>
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		<title>By: kif</title>
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		<dc:creator>kif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media room?  I can't even get peace in the bathroom. I have a wife and kids.  My only hope for soundproofing is punctured eardrums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media room?  I can&#8217;t even get peace in the bathroom. I have a wife and kids.  My only hope for soundproofing is punctured eardrums.</p>
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		<title>By: metis</title>
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		<dc:creator>metis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jason: does 5 grand include labor?  

of note, stepped wallboard will help but more so will non-parallel walls that are tapered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jason: does 5 grand include labor?  </p>
<p>of note, stepped wallboard will help but more so will non-parallel walls that are tapered.</p>
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		<title>By: metis</title>
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		<dc:creator>metis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why not just do a staggered double stud wall?  it seems like a lot less hassle and... what 60 extra studs?    even if you float the ceiling and floor you're still at less than 700$, and have a much higher iso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not just do a staggered double stud wall?  it seems like a lot less hassle and&#8230; what 60 extra studs?    even if you float the ceiling and floor you&#8217;re still at less than 700$, and have a much higher iso.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're serious about soundproofing, that's actually not bad of a price. I recently redid my studio and the cost to double insulate the walls, double sheetrock (different thicknesses to avoid sympathetic vibrations), and put in a new floor was about five grand. I decided not to go the isomax route, but every little bit helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re serious about soundproofing, that&#8217;s actually not bad of a price. I recently redid my studio and the cost to double insulate the walls, double sheetrock (different thicknesses to avoid sympathetic vibrations), and put in a new floor was about five grand. I decided not to go the isomax route, but every little bit helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamen Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamen Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim German:

I didn't say inexpensive, I said "relatively inexpensive." Have you looked at the price of other sound proofing solutions?  This is "relatively inexpensive" in comparison.

You can buy sound isolating foam for $9 a square foot.  That's approximately $6000 for your 20x20 room and you still have to pay for the drywall...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim German:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say inexpensive, I said &#8220;relatively inexpensive.&#8221; Have you looked at the price of other sound proofing solutions?  This is &#8220;relatively inexpensive&#8221; in comparison.</p>
<p>You can buy sound isolating foam for $9 a square foot.  That&#8217;s approximately $6000 for your 20&#215;20 room and you still have to pay for the drywall&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that resilient channel?  The stuff I used was only attached on one side, which lets it be springy and sag down from the ceiling a bit  I've seen that stuff advertised as hat channel in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that resilient channel?  The stuff I used was only attached on one side, which lets it be springy and sag down from the ceiling a bit  I&#8217;ve seen that stuff advertised as hat channel in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim German</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim German</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"relatively inexpensive"?? For a 20'x20' room you're talking about $700 worth of clips.  Add in the double layers of drywall, insulation, and green glue, and sound proofing isn't cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;relatively inexpensive&#8221;?? For a 20&#8242;x20&#8242; room you&#8217;re talking about $700 worth of clips.  Add in the double layers of drywall, insulation, and green glue, and sound proofing isn&#8217;t cheap.</p>
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