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	<title>Comments on: CNN Fireball Chase Scene: Car Guy Analysis?</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Townend</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-702802</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Townend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, again the auto refresher.  Could you imagine a tool that auto refreshed during use.  You would be all over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, again the auto refresher.  Could you imagine a tool that auto refreshed during use.  You would be all over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-702781</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Firefox 3, under Options &#62; Advanced &#62; General &#62;
"Warn me when web sites try to redirect or reload the page."
Check that box, no more auto-refresh of Toolmonger, and unlike most changes that cause problems elsewhere, there aren't that many side effects of this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Firefox 3, under Options &gt; Advanced &gt; General &gt;<br />
&#8220;Warn me when web sites try to redirect or reload the page.&#8221;<br />
Check that box, no more auto-refresh of Toolmonger, and unlike most changes that cause problems elsewhere, there aren&#8217;t that many side effects of this one.</p>
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		<title>By: DocN</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-702398</link>
		<dc:creator>DocN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum: I don't know what kind of car it was, but it wasn't a front-wheel drive. Once the front tire disappeared, the car come to a stop since all the power would go to the damaged side due to loss of traction and the "open" differential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: I don&#8217;t know what kind of car it was, but it wasn&#8217;t a front-wheel drive. Once the front tire disappeared, the car come to a stop since all the power would go to the damaged side due to loss of traction and the &#8220;open&#8221; differential.</p>
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		<title>By: Topgun</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-702331</link>
		<dc:creator>Topgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Looks like he was riding on the rim for awhile, which will produce plenty of sparks at that speed. You can see the car lurch and drop at one point, probably the rim finally letting go/wearing to a point where he's then on the brake rotor. 

Yes David, I thot the same thing...Back up that cruiser! Too much paperwork involved in a mistake like that !

Textbook felony stop once the car actually came to rest...I had no audio but imagine the PD was using their bullhorn to instruct the occupants on how to remain alive by cooperating.

And damn...great driving! Dumb, but great driving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Looks like he was riding on the rim for awhile, which will produce plenty of sparks at that speed. You can see the car lurch and drop at one point, probably the rim finally letting go/wearing to a point where he&#8217;s then on the brake rotor. </p>
<p>Yes David, I thot the same thing&#8230;Back up that cruiser! Too much paperwork involved in a mistake like that !</p>
<p>Textbook felony stop once the car actually came to rest&#8230;I had no audio but imagine the PD was using their bullhorn to instruct the occupants on how to remain alive by cooperating.</p>
<p>And damn&#8230;great driving! Dumb, but great driving!</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-702155</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, I was all excited like I just sank a 2 foot putt.  I tried to download the blocker above, and then saw it only works on older versions of Firefox.  Bummer.

Hey Toolmonger guys - any chance of eliminating the auto-refresh?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, I was all excited like I just sank a 2 foot putt.  I tried to download the blocker above, and then saw it only works on older versions of Firefox.  Bummer.</p>
<p>Hey Toolmonger guys - any chance of eliminating the auto-refresh?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bickford</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-701936</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bickford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the stand alone refreshblocker FireFox extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/992
Although, there is a Greasemonkey script out there somewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the stand alone refreshblocker FireFox extension:<br />
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/992" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/992</a><br />
Although, there is a Greasemonkey script out there somewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zathrus</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-701772</link>
		<dc:creator>Zathrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the auto refresh is annoying. But consider it yet another reason to use Firefox, which doesn't lose any of the text when the site refreshes.

Oh, and yes, Firefox also has the tool to keep the thing from refreshing at all; it's called GreaseMonkey. If it annoyed me sufficiently I'd write a GM script to edit the refresh out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the auto refresh is annoying. But consider it yet another reason to use Firefox, which doesn&#8217;t lose any of the text when the site refreshes.</p>
<p>Oh, and yes, Firefox also has the tool to keep the thing from refreshing at all; it&#8217;s called GreaseMonkey. If it annoyed me sufficiently I&#8217;d write a GM script to edit the refresh out.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Coach James:
Timing and brevity are importan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Coach James:<br />
Timing and brevity are importan</p>
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		<title>By: river1</title>
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		<dc:creator>river1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you'd think that there was a 'TOOL' that could fix that auto refresh. maybe they could review that 'TOOL'.

LOL LOL

later jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;d think that there was a &#8216;TOOL&#8217; that could fix that auto refresh. maybe they could review that &#8216;TOOL&#8217;.</p>
<p>LOL LOL</p>
<p>later jim</p>
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		<title>By: Coach James</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-701440</link>
		<dc:creator>Coach James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know what you guys are talking about, I love auto refresh.  My favorite part is when I'm three words from finishing a reply and lose it all due to the page refreshing.  I actually post less often just for that reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what you guys are talking about, I love auto refresh.  My favorite part is when I&#8217;m three words from finishing a reply and lose it all due to the page refreshing.  I actually post less often just for that reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Brau</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-701400</link>
		<dc:creator>Brau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Phil and Doc.  The front end is clearly so low on the ground that the oil pan must have been ground open leading to flames and seizure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Phil and Doc.  The front end is clearly so low on the ground that the oil pan must have been ground open leading to flames and seizure.</p>
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		<title>By: DocN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, lost the tire, possibly due to a spike-strip. The rim wore away, eventually hit the rotor and suspension arm, and that first gout of flame we saw while they were still moving was the oil pan scraping through and letting go.

After that, the engine seized within moments, and they coasted to a stop. The fire at the end was almost certainly from the hot steel and hot engine parts setting the remaining boiling oil alight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, lost the tire, possibly due to a spike-strip. The rim wore away, eventually hit the rotor and suspension arm, and that first gout of flame we saw while they were still moving was the oil pan scraping through and letting go.</p>
<p>After that, the engine seized within moments, and they coasted to a stop. The fire at the end was almost certainly from the hot steel and hot engine parts setting the remaining boiling oil alight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-700988</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that auto refresh is a real pain!</description>
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		<title>By: Stuart Hersh</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-700836</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Hersh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never got to the fiery conclusion, due to that pesky refresh.</description>
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		<title>By: blitzcat</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-700808</link>
		<dc:creator>blitzcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rear tires burned through, stopped</description>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-700806</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the rim went I suspect the inertia switch cut the fuel. Thats why he stopped. That or the engine seized when the oil drained out of the oil pan.</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-700756</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me crazy, but if I had just finished a flaming car chase, I don't think I would have parked my squad car _right behind_ the culprit's gas tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me crazy, but if I had just finished a flaming car chase, I don&#8217;t think I would have parked my squad car _right behind_ the culprit&#8217;s gas tank.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the runner managed to run on the rim for this long, he most likely was dragging the oil pan and/or the transmission pan/housing eventually as well. It finally rubbed through, making the white smoky flameout and coming to a stop. Enough burning oil and plastic remained lit under the hood to eventually burn through fuel lines, then we have the big fire erupting at the end of the video. A ratings bonanza!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the runner managed to run on the rim for this long, he most likely was dragging the oil pan and/or the transmission pan/housing eventually as well. It finally rubbed through, making the white smoky flameout and coming to a stop. Enough burning oil and plastic remained lit under the hood to eventually burn through fuel lines, then we have the big fire erupting at the end of the video. A ratings bonanza!</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/13/cnn-fireball-chase-scene-car-guy-analysis/#comment-700607</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a Dodge Neon, year not stated.  The CNN video had no audio for me, but KABC (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/index) is running it as their number one video as of Saturday morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a Dodge Neon, year not stated.  The CNN video had no audio for me, but KABC (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/index) is running it as their number one video as of Saturday morning.</p>
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