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	<title>Comments on: Budget Shop Truck Build, Part 3: Building An Engine Stand</title>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/12/shop-truck-build-part-3-building-an-engine-stand/#comment-1038987</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You losers might want to peruse the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality web site:

http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/

As Texas is having a drought, I bet the TCEQ will be real unhappy with the lot of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You losers might want to peruse the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality web site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/</a></p>
<p>As Texas is having a drought, I bet the TCEQ will be real unhappy with the lot of you.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/12/shop-truck-build-part-3-building-an-engine-stand/#comment-1038980</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not real bright letting all the Gunk and old grease [hydrocarbons and volatile organic chemicals] run out into the street, into the storm drains, into a stream or river, and then into YOUR water supply.

In case you flunked or ignored chemistry, hydrocarbons and volatile organic chemicals are carcinogenic and mutagenic; that is: You and your neighbors could die from having your organs eaten up by your own cells, and your and your neighbors children could be born with three eyes and and a disposition to other odd ailments and adverse psychological phenomenon.

Then there are the groundwater civil laws [Federal and State; even in Texas] that make you liable [the Feds and State clean it up and then make you pay] for the cleanup of what you illegally introduced into the public domain; ie, the ground water.

Then there are the criminal penalties for INTENTIONALLY introduction a hazardous substance into the public domain; ie, the ground water.

And any of you can belittle me if you want, but remember, it was us Congress and the various State Legislatures that passed these laws in the 1960's.

Too many of the younger generation take clean safe potable drinking for granted.  Like the lot of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not real bright letting all the Gunk and old grease [hydrocarbons and volatile organic chemicals] run out into the street, into the storm drains, into a stream or river, and then into YOUR water supply.</p>
<p>In case you flunked or ignored chemistry, hydrocarbons and volatile organic chemicals are carcinogenic and mutagenic; that is: You and your neighbors could die from having your organs eaten up by your own cells, and your and your neighbors children could be born with three eyes and and a disposition to other odd ailments and adverse psychological phenomenon.</p>
<p>Then there are the groundwater civil laws [Federal and State; even in Texas] that make you liable [the Feds and State clean it up and then make you pay] for the cleanup of what you illegally introduced into the public domain; ie, the ground water.</p>
<p>Then there are the criminal penalties for INTENTIONALLY introduction a hazardous substance into the public domain; ie, the ground water.</p>
<p>And any of you can belittle me if you want, but remember, it was us Congress and the various State Legislatures that passed these laws in the 1960&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Too many of the younger generation take clean safe potable drinking for granted.  Like the lot of you.</p>
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		<title>By: MattC</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/12/shop-truck-build-part-3-building-an-engine-stand/#comment-963433</link>
		<dc:creator>MattC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not want to jump on the bandwagon, but dayummm it has been almost 7 months since the last update. Is this project just forgotten, aborted, or are there other projects that are taking up your time. Kind of a buzzkill when the last major work is an impromptu engine stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not want to jump on the bandwagon, but dayummm it has been almost 7 months since the last update. Is this project just forgotten, aborted, or are there other projects that are taking up your time. Kind of a buzzkill when the last major work is an impromptu engine stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/12/shop-truck-build-part-3-building-an-engine-stand/#comment-935570</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was there any more progress on this or was it all just forgotten about???? It's been quite some time since the last update... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there any more progress on this or was it all just forgotten about???? It&#8217;s been quite some time since the last update&#8230; <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/12/shop-truck-build-part-3-building-an-engine-stand/#comment-773691</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about an update on the progress... the project is advertised every other ad, but there has not been a recent article on the progression of the project since early December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about an update on the progress&#8230; the project is advertised every other ad, but there has not been a recent article on the progression of the project since early December.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Pugsley</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/12/shop-truck-build-part-3-building-an-engine-stand/#comment-721334</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Pugsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article!   I appreciate the simple, to point way that you explained how to make a simple engine stand without breaking the bank.   It is interesting how the best things can be built for any budget.   Thank you for the helpful article.  



Jonathon Pugsley
homebasedphilosphy@getresponse.com
http://www.marketingmergeonline.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article!   I appreciate the simple, to point way that you explained how to make a simple engine stand without breaking the bank.   It is interesting how the best things can be built for any budget.   Thank you for the helpful article.  </p>
<p>Jonathon Pugsley<br />
<a href="mailto:homebasedphilosphy@getresponse.com">homebasedphilosphy@getresponse.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.marketingmergeonline.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketingmergeonline.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Cage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments! A few fun facts that Sean is probably too shy to share (or might share in future installments, but I'm gonna out him now) and a few of my opinions:

1) Thankfully Sean's not doing anything to the bottom end so there's no need for access to it.

2) I'm a huge HF advocate and fan, but in my experience their rotating engine stands aren't worth $50. I actually had two I inherited from my father (who never got around to using 'em), and neither would hold a 350 without bending dangerously. Hell, I couldn't even get one to hold a 1.6l from a CRX. So I cut 'em up for steel.

2) The engine lift and load balancer in the pics are mine. I loaned 'em to Sean for the job, so his outlay for these (other than the PITA of retrieving 'em from and returning 'em to my storage unit) was $0.

3) He mentions $20 in the post, but I know for a fact that he found all the parts laying around his shop and mine, so his total outlay for the rig was $0.

4) You'll see later why Sean is pinching his pennies. $50 will just about buy the sweet black valve covers he scored for this rebuild -- totally worth the $$, btw, just to not have to clean up the old ones, though they look incredible -- and actually *would* buy the $450 replacement intake manifold -- when he cleaned the first one up he found a crack. I hope he tells his manifold story in its entirety because it's a masterpiece of Craigslist, junkyard, and general parts-hunting genius.

Anyway, thought I'd share. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments! A few fun facts that Sean is probably too shy to share (or might share in future installments, but I&#8217;m gonna out him now) and a few of my opinions:</p>
<p>1) Thankfully Sean&#8217;s not doing anything to the bottom end so there&#8217;s no need for access to it.</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;m a huge HF advocate and fan, but in my experience their rotating engine stands aren&#8217;t worth $50. I actually had two I inherited from my father (who never got around to using &#8216;em), and neither would hold a 350 without bending dangerously. Hell, I couldn&#8217;t even get one to hold a 1.6l from a CRX. So I cut &#8216;em up for steel.</p>
<p>2) The engine lift and load balancer in the pics are mine. I loaned &#8216;em to Sean for the job, so his outlay for these (other than the PITA of retrieving &#8216;em from and returning &#8216;em to my storage unit) was $0.</p>
<p>3) He mentions $20 in the post, but I know for a fact that he found all the parts laying around his shop and mine, so his total outlay for the rig was $0.</p>
<p>4) You&#8217;ll see later why Sean is pinching his pennies. $50 will just about buy the sweet black valve covers he scored for this rebuild &#8212; totally worth the $$, btw, just to not have to clean up the old ones, though they look incredible &#8212; and actually *would* buy the $450 replacement intake manifold &#8212; when he cleaned the first one up he found a crack. I hope he tells his manifold story in its entirety because it&#8217;s a masterpiece of Craigslist, junkyard, and general parts-hunting genius.</p>
<p>Anyway, thought I&#8217;d share. <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with these guys, life is too short to rebuild an engine without a real engine stand.  Been there, done that in both ways and by all means don't want to do it again the hard way.  With HF around, you don't need to suffer... go get you a stand!

Actually you need both types, one to move the assembled engine around and for the final parts like the flex plate, and the engine stand for the major internal parts.  So your dolly is fine for what it does.  I made one about 30 years ago from plans in Car Craft, I think - still have it somewhere.  It used carriage bolts and a different framing layout, but the concept was pretty similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with these guys, life is too short to rebuild an engine without a real engine stand.  Been there, done that in both ways and by all means don&#8217;t want to do it again the hard way.  With HF around, you don&#8217;t need to suffer&#8230; go get you a stand!</p>
<p>Actually you need both types, one to move the assembled engine around and for the final parts like the flex plate, and the engine stand for the major internal parts.  So your dolly is fine for what it does.  I made one about 30 years ago from plans in Car Craft, I think - still have it somewhere.  It used carriage bolts and a different framing layout, but the concept was pretty similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Jereme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jereme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great idea and you have to do what you have to do my father did the same thing as well ontime</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great idea and you have to do what you have to do my father did the same thing as well ontime</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dudes, you have a cherry picker with a tilting engine leveler in the pictures but, there's no money for an engine stand? I'll send you my harbor freight 20% off coupon if it will help you out. That's a nice engine dolley you built and it will come in handy if all you're going to do is to push the engine in the corner of the garage and let it sit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dudes, you have a cherry picker with a tilting engine leveler in the pictures but, there&#8217;s no money for an engine stand? I&#8217;ll send you my harbor freight 20% off coupon if it will help you out. That&#8217;s a nice engine dolley you built and it will come in handy if all you&#8217;re going to do is to push the engine in the corner of the garage and let it sit.</p>
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		<title>By: KMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have mentioned, get a real engine stand.  What you guys built is an engine dolly.  

I don't think I've ever bought a new engine stand in my life.  First one was from a used tool store, someone used it for maybe an hour.  The others we have in the shop all came from Craigslist over the years.  Typically $25 for a good used one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have mentioned, get a real engine stand.  What you guys built is an engine dolly.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever bought a new engine stand in my life.  First one was from a used tool store, someone used it for maybe an hour.  The others we have in the shop all came from Craigslist over the years.  Typically $25 for a good used one.</p>
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		<title>By: tscheez</title>
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		<dc:creator>tscheez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually suffer from not having the right tool, so I applaud the ingenuity. However, I'd vote for a real engine stand too. Just so I could stand up / sit in a chair while working and not have to bend over. My back would be killing me after an hour of sitting on the floor rebuilding the thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually suffer from not having the right tool, so I applaud the ingenuity. However, I&#8217;d vote for a real engine stand too. Just so I could stand up / sit in a chair while working and not have to bend over. My back would be killing me after an hour of sitting on the floor rebuilding the thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but what happens when you want to pull the oil pan? A $50 engine stand would not only allow you to conveniently move the motor around, but also rebuild it while it's still mounted to the stand. I think you'll come to regret not having one. (Full disclosure: my last engine rebuild was done on a sheet of plastic on the garage floor, which is even worse than what you've got)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but what happens when you want to pull the oil pan? A $50 engine stand would not only allow you to conveniently move the motor around, but also rebuild it while it&#8217;s still mounted to the stand. I think you&#8217;ll come to regret not having one. (Full disclosure: my last engine rebuild was done on a sheet of plastic on the garage floor, which is even worse than what you&#8217;ve got)</p>
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