Comments on: Liquidreflector Night Safety Paint http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:25:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: LiquidReflector - reflective paint at popular logistics http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-355621 Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:45:06 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-355621 [...] Via Toolmonger. [...] […] Via Toolmonger. […]

]]> by: Rob http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-211035 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:44:52 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-211035 Eric, I've got more retroreflective tape than I can shake a stick at (yes, I'm one of those motorcyclists). I was just thinking that it'd be cool to be able to paint parts of the bike with it. Eric, I’ve got more retroreflective tape than I can shake a stick at (yes, I’m one of those motorcyclists). I was just thinking that it’d be cool to be able to paint parts of the bike with it.

]]> by: melvin http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210650 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:14:53 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210650 I've used a retroreflective spray paint. It worked best over a light substrate and not nearly as well as reflective tape but it did work. Ideal for compound shapes like fenders and at only $7 a can a heck of a lot cheaper than the tape. If you want to cover a large area or something like a fence post it's a good alternative. IE: instead of a strip on the mail box it's cost effective to coat the whole thing. I’ve used a retroreflective spray paint. It worked best over a light substrate and not nearly as well as reflective tape but it did work. Ideal for compound shapes like fenders and at only $7 a can a heck of a lot cheaper than the tape. If you want to cover a large area or something like a fence post it’s a good alternative. IE: instead of a strip on the mail box it’s cost effective to coat the whole thing.

]]> by: Patrick http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210470 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:34:19 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210470 I second my fellow bikers. The 3M tape is absolutely wicked - especially as you can do funny things with it as a "stealth" biker. You know, tape arrows to either side of your head so as you check your blindspots it looks like a turn signal. Write obscene messages and designs on the back of your buddy's black leather jacket, preferably when his mother in law is tailing him...that sorta thing. I second my fellow bikers. The 3M tape is absolutely wicked - especially as you can do funny things with it as a “stealth” biker. You know, tape arrows to either side of your head so as you check your blindspots it looks like a turn signal. Write obscene messages and designs on the back of your buddy’s black leather jacket, preferably when his mother in law is tailing him…that sorta thing.

]]> by: Mike R http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210420 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:28:13 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210420 I can 2nd the 3M reflective tape on motorcycles. I bought a roll in black and put it on a bunch of inconspicuous areas. You'd never know it's there and the bike lights up like an xmas tree now. I can 2nd the 3M reflective tape on motorcycles. I bought a roll in black and put it on a bunch of inconspicuous areas. You’d never know it’s there and the bike lights up like an xmas tree now.

]]> by: Robert http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210406 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:35:46 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210406 If you use glass beads for "street art" be sure to blow off the excess beads. Loose glass beads on concrete pavement are like little ball bearings. They can be very dangerous to pedestrians. I get mine from Allstates Coatings - (800) 358-3020 If you use glass beads for “street art” be sure to blow off the excess beads. Loose glass beads on concrete pavement are like little ball bearings. They can be very dangerous to pedestrians.
I get mine from Allstates Coatings - (800) 358-3020

]]> by: Jon Soroko http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210212 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:38:22 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-210212 This is new to me - I'm mostly seeing taped installations of retroreflective material. But I can help on the distinction. REFLECTIVE material is just that. Prismatic reflective material (sometimes called retroreflective) does the same thing - but because of the varied surface angles, is visible at higher distances. For instance, ANSI Class III - garments for highway workers - must be visible 360 degrees around body, and visible at - I think - 1,250 feet in low-light conditions. (I have the flu - the math is escaping me - but it's 30 mph for 30 seconds with limited light, rain, etc.) The downside to this is time involved and consistency. But it could be great - don't know about durability - and cost comparison to 3M's reflexite and other products. 3M seems to overwhelmingly dominate this market; Avery Dennison now seems to be offering some of the same. This is new to me - I’m mostly seeing taped installations of retroreflective material. But I can help on the distinction.

REFLECTIVE material is just that. Prismatic reflective material (sometimes called retroreflective) does the same thing - but because of the varied surface angles, is visible at higher distances. For instance, ANSI Class III - garments for highway workers - must be visible 360 degrees around body, and visible at - I think - 1,250 feet in low-light conditions. (I have the flu - the math is escaping me - but it’s 30 mph for 30 seconds with limited light, rain, etc.)

The downside to this is time involved and consistency. But it could be great - don’t know about durability - and cost comparison to 3M’s reflexite and other products. 3M seems to overwhelmingly dominate this market; Avery Dennison now seems to be offering some of the same.

]]> by: James B http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209872 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:41:56 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209872 While it isn't exactly the same as reflective paint, this glow in the dark looks pretty interesting: http://glowinc.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=2 I used a low grade version of this on a light switch plate and inside my hitch receiver, and it does light up a little. Seems like the reflective paint would be better for catching car headlights though. While it isn’t exactly the same as reflective paint, this glow in the dark looks pretty interesting:

http://glowinc.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=2

I used a low grade version of this on a light switch plate and inside my hitch receiver, and it does light up a little. Seems like the reflective paint would be better for catching car headlights though.

]]> by: Charlie http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209826 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:02:14 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209826 I happen to know that Rustoleum has a reflective paint. Single-step. I'm not sure how well it works, because I can't ever find a justifiable excuse to buy it. I know that Menards carries it, but I can't speak for those other guys... I happen to know that Rustoleum has a reflective paint. Single-step. I’m not sure how well it works, because I can’t ever find a justifiable excuse to buy it. I know that Menards carries it, but I can’t speak for those other guys…

]]> by: Eric Dykstra http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209815 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:32:03 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209815 Rob, I think a better solution for automotive situations would be something like 3M Scotchlite Reflective Tape. In daylight it looks like tape but at night reflects like other Scotchlight products. It comes in a bunch of widths and colors (even black) and i even think you can spray clearcoat over it similar to what's done on police cruisers. Scotchalite 680 Reflective Film: http://tinyurl.com/3xog8w Rally9x, The liquidreflector site sells 10 and 20 pound bags of the glass beads for 13.75 and 24.75 bucks respectively plus 9 for shipping. http://www.liquidreflector.com/glassbeads.html Subvert, Those glass beads sprinkled over some wet....let's call it street art would likely give a cool effect, or for some stealth action use spray adhesive instead. I imagine it would be more or less invisible during the day but extremely reflective at night when light is shining on it. That being said don't be a jerk about it :) Rob,

I think a better solution for automotive situations would be something like 3M Scotchlite Reflective Tape. In daylight it looks like tape but at night reflects like other Scotchlight products. It comes in a bunch of widths and colors (even black) and i even think you can spray clearcoat over it similar to what’s done on police cruisers.

Scotchalite 680 Reflective Film: http://tinyurl.com/3xog8w

Rally9x,

The liquidreflector site sells 10 and 20 pound bags of the glass beads for 13.75 and 24.75 bucks respectively plus 9 for shipping.

http://www.liquidreflector.com/glassbeads.html

Subvert,

Those glass beads sprinkled over some wet….let’s call it street art would likely give a cool effect, or for some stealth action use spray adhesive instead. I imagine it would be more or less invisible during the day but extremely reflective at night when light is shining on it. That being said don’t be a jerk about it :)

]]> by: Rally9x http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209786 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:34:54 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209786 "I buy glass beads in 50 lb bags for about $1 per pound. The beads will work with most any kind of paint." This sounds interesting, do you have some links to places a guy could get these? “I buy glass beads in 50 lb bags for about $1 per pound. The beads will work with most any kind of paint.”

This sounds interesting, do you have some links to places a guy could get these?

]]> by: Robert http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209778 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:16:20 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209778 The paint can't be smooth, the mica, or glass beads have to be embedded in and extending above the paint surface for this to work. Have you ever seen a road marking crew painting stop bars, or arrows? They spray the paint, and sling glass beads on the paint surface while it's still wet. It's technically called "retroreflective" since the tiny round beads reflect most light back towards the source rather than at an angle like a mirror. I buy glass beads in 50 lb bags for about $1 per pound. The beads will work with most any kind of paint. The paint can’t be smooth, the mica, or glass beads have to be embedded in and extending above the paint surface for this to work.
Have you ever seen a road marking crew painting stop bars, or arrows? They spray the paint, and sling glass beads on the paint surface while it’s still wet.
It’s technically called “retroreflective” since the tiny round beads reflect most light back towards the source rather than at an angle like a mirror.
I buy glass beads in 50 lb bags for about $1 per pound. The beads will work with most any kind of paint.

]]> by: Subvert http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209762 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:42:18 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209762 I've been looking for a retail source for this type of paint for a while now. Too bad the multi-step process makes it a bit...unwieldy for the, ah, urban interventions I had in mind. :) I’ve been looking for a retail source for this type of paint for a while now. Too bad the multi-step process makes it a bit…unwieldy for the, ah, urban interventions I had in mind. :)

]]> by: Rob http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209643 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:10:08 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/22/liquidreflector-night-safety-paint/#comment-209643 Has anyone seen this paint in person? Does it have a smooth finish? Could I use it to paint panels on my motorcycle or bicycle to be easier to see in the dark without it looking like crap? Has anyone seen this paint in person? Does it have a smooth finish? Could I use it to paint panels on my motorcycle or bicycle to be easier to see in the dark without it looking like crap?

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