Comments on: A Knotty Learning Tool http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:42:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: ArtO'Knot http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-214194 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:35:40 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-214194 Take a look at your non-dominate hand. Everything that this gizmo does can be done with your opposite hand with the added benefit of learning to tie with one hand - a good lesson when trying to hang on to a life line. Fifteen dollars? I think not - maybe 15 cents. Many other techniques will do much better. Take a look at your non-dominate hand. Everything that this gizmo does can be done with your opposite hand with the added benefit of learning to tie with one hand - a good lesson when trying to hang on to a life line. Fifteen dollars? I think not - maybe 15 cents. Many other techniques will do much better.

]]> by: Eric Dykstra http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209079 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:23:04 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209079 hit submit by accident! ...useful for securing loads in a lumberyard setting. hit submit by accident!

…useful for securing loads in a lumberyard setting.

]]> by: Eric Dykstra http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209078 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:21:35 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209078 From the Fourteener Knot site: "The idea was first conceptualized in 1989 when Complete Knotting Systems founder Darryl Lusk was working at a lumber yard. He was asked by his boss to tie down a load on a truck and when Darryl did a series of “granny knots” his boss was not pleased... " Perhaps he tried to use a "granny knot" to secure two lines from opposite sides of the load together? I've also heard a common overhand knot incorrectly referred to as a granny knot. The Fourteener seems particularly suited for learning hitches which I imagine are very useful From the Fourteener Knot site:

“The idea was first conceptualized in 1989 when Complete Knotting Systems founder Darryl Lusk was working at a lumber yard. He was asked by his boss to tie down a load on a truck and when Darryl did a series of “granny knots” his boss was not pleased… ”

Perhaps he tried to use a “granny knot” to secure two lines from opposite sides of the load together? I’ve also heard a common overhand knot incorrectly referred to as a granny knot. The Fourteener seems particularly suited for learning hitches which I imagine are very useful

]]> by: Sunny http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209068 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:58:40 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209068 --I should add, though, that neither a granny knot nor a square knot work well as bends. –I should add, though, that neither a granny knot nor a square knot work well as bends.

]]> by: Sunny http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209067 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:57:33 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-209067 <blockquote>"Darryl Lusk invented the Fourteener after a series of failed attempts at a granny knot almost got him laughed out of a lumberyard job."</blockquote> Er, and why would he be trying to tie a granny knot? In any case, the Fouteener will not help you learn to tie a granny knot, a square knot or any knot designed to tie the ends of two ropes together--the class of knots called "bends"--so the anecdote is a bit of a non-sequitur.

“Darryl Lusk invented the Fourteener after a series of failed attempts at a granny knot almost got him laughed out of a lumberyard job.”

Er, and why would he be trying to tie a granny knot?

In any case, the Fouteener will not help you learn to tie a granny knot, a square knot or any knot designed to tie the ends of two ropes together–the class of knots called “bends”–so the anecdote is a bit of a non-sequitur.

]]> by: Psycho » Blog Archive » Fourteener Helps You Learn Knots http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-208790 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:39:15 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-208790 [...] Product Page [14erKnottingTool.com via Toolmonger] [...] […] Product Page [14erKnottingTool.com via Toolmonger] […]

]]> by: Ken http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-208443 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:01:45 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-208443 Yeah right Fred Yeah right Fred

]]> by: Geoff K. http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-207869 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:52:22 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-207869 IMHO, a 2x4, a couple of nails, maybe a hole drilled into the 2x4, and some spare line I found on the floor of the shop, combined with a few websites on how to tie knots would give someone all the same resources that this gizmo provides. Of course, one would also need a little creativity to "simulate" all of the locations it has, but the device itself seems pretty elaborate and excessive for what it actually does. Hey, whatever it takes to learn knots, bends &#38; hitches, I'm all for it, but this seems a little over the top... IMHO, a 2×4, a couple of nails, maybe a hole drilled into the 2×4, and some spare line I found on the floor of the shop, combined with a few websites on how to tie knots would give someone all the same resources that this gizmo provides. Of course, one would also need a little creativity to “simulate” all of the locations it has, but the device itself seems pretty elaborate and excessive for what it actually does. Hey, whatever it takes to learn knots, bends & hitches, I’m all for it, but this seems a little over the top…

]]> by: Darryl http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-207231 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:43:13 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-207231 Shouldn't have quit after first-class. Us Eagle Scouts know how to tie our knots. And get girls....errr maybe not so much the latter.... Shouldn’t have quit after first-class. Us Eagle Scouts know how to tie our knots. And get girls….errr maybe not so much the latter….

]]> by: Fred http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-206902 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:41:52 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2008/01/18/a-knotty-learning-tool/#comment-206902 Lumberyard guys just laugh? Us sailors will throw lubbers overboard if they can't get their knots right. Aaaarrghh! Lumberyard guys just laugh? Us sailors will throw lubbers overboard if they can’t get their knots right. Aaaarrghh!

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