Comments on: Hot or Not? Zero-Offset Ratcheting Wrenches http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:07:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Eddie http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-187466 Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:29:09 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-187466 I prefer zero if your working with small engines that have few flat spots, they are especially great when your under a bike drying to get the stuck or over torqued oil pan bolt off and need the torque. I prefer zero if your working with small engines that have few flat spots, they are especially great when your under a bike drying to get the stuck or over torqued oil pan bolt off and need the torque.

]]> by: DavidtheDuke http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-186539 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:08:20 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-186539 I have the Snap-On version of those, and the open-end is *really* helpful sometimes. Luckily I got them with a used price via ebay, and the snap on guy replaces them no questions. I can really lean on them without worrying about getting them warrantied etc. Plus they're made in the USA. With the falling dollar and what not you get more and more bang for you buck with USA tools :P I have the Snap-On version of those, and the open-end is *really* helpful sometimes. Luckily I got them with a used price via ebay, and the snap on guy replaces them no questions. I can really lean on them without worrying about getting them warrantied etc. Plus they’re made in the USA. With the falling dollar and what not you get more and more bang for you buck with USA tools :P

]]> by: John http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-184400 Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:07:18 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-184400 Wow, Fletch read my mind. My GearWrenches were purchased before the reversing or offset styles came out. I used to put the wrenches on the wrong way round all the time (loosening instead of tightening). A few sessions of actually watching what I was doing cured that. Now I can see before I even put the wrench on which way it's going to turn. No flipping the switch back and forth three times (yes, I do that with my ratchets). The few times I have ever had a clearance issue, I don't think a 15 degree offset would have helped. I had to either reach for an actual socket wrench or just use my fingertips for a few swings. And yeah, I am paranoid about the switch breaking. Wow, Fletch read my mind.

My GearWrenches were purchased before the reversing or offset styles came out. I used to put the wrenches on the wrong way round all the time (loosening instead of tightening). A few sessions of actually watching what I was doing cured that. Now I can see before I even put the wrench on which way it’s going to turn. No flipping the switch back and forth three times (yes, I do that with my ratchets).

The few times I have ever had a clearance issue, I don’t think a 15 degree offset would have helped. I had to either reach for an actual socket wrench or just use my fingertips for a few swings.

And yeah, I am paranoid about the switch breaking.

]]> by: Fletcher http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-184146 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:40:47 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-184146 I have a set of the zero degree non-reversible and found them great for really tight spots. The form factor of the wrench end is at a minimum (although I doubt a switch would really get in the way.) I've never been a fan of flex heads because of the tendency to flex when you don't want them to. I thought I'd miss the reversible switch but flipping them has never been inconvenient and I like the simplicity (less stuff to break, I suppose.) I have a set of the zero degree non-reversible and found them great for really tight spots. The form factor of the wrench end is at a minimum (although I doubt a switch would really get in the way.) I’ve never been a fan of flex heads because of the tendency to flex when you don’t want them to. I thought I’d miss the reversible switch but flipping them has never been inconvenient and I like the simplicity (less stuff to break, I suppose.)

]]> by: Mel http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183909 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:30:49 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183909 I'm with Dunc., I have both metric and SAE sets of flex Gearwrenches, think they're great. Also, like Mike D, I don't use the gear end to break loose a fastener. I’m with Dunc., I have both metric and SAE sets of flex Gearwrenches, think they’re great. Also, like Mike D, I don’t use the gear end to break loose a fastener.

]]> by: l_bilyk http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183793 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:38:08 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183793 I don't even care about the offset... there have been plenty of times where i wasn't thinking and ended up backing the bolt up to a point where the wrench is no longer removable and therefore not reversible. And then I have to struggle trying to get the damn wrench off. Reversible all the way. I would not even consider the other kind now. I don’t even care about the offset… there have been plenty of times where i wasn’t thinking and ended up backing the bolt up to a point where the wrench is no longer removable and therefore not reversible. And then I have to struggle trying to get the damn wrench off. Reversible all the way. I would not even consider the other kind now.

]]> by: pencilneck http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183744 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:09:18 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183744 I've used both flat and offset versions and like the offset versions better for the times you are working against a flat surface you can't wrap your fingers around the flat versions for better torque. In open space, the flats ones are less likely to "walk off" the nut/bolt. But to that end, I only use my off set ratcheting wrenches when my 1/4" air ratchet is too large to fit in the work space, so my ratcheting wrenches only get used a few times a week... but still I found them to be worth the investment. I’ve used both flat and offset versions and like the offset versions better for the times you are working against a flat surface you can’t wrap your fingers around the flat versions for better torque. In open space, the flats ones are less likely to “walk off” the nut/bolt.

But to that end, I only use my off set ratcheting wrenches when my 1/4″ air ratchet is too large to fit in the work space, so my ratcheting wrenches only get used a few times a week… but still I found them to be worth the investment.

]]> by: Old Donn http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183660 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:15:35 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183660 Got both, use the reversable offsets, (bottom ), 90% of the time. Yeah, it's no big thing to flip the tool, but it's a lot easier to flip the switch. Got both, use the reversable offsets, (bottom ), 90% of the time. Yeah, it’s no big thing to flip the tool, but it’s a lot easier to flip the switch.

]]> by: Joe http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183584 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:17:23 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183584 They're two different tools for two different jobs. You want to throw half-moon and S-style wrenches into the mix too? http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/half_moon_reversible/ http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/s-shape_reversible/ They’re two different tools for two different jobs. You want to throw half-moon and S-style wrenches into the mix too?

http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/half_moon_reversible/

http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wrenches/ratcheting/s-shape_reversible/

]]> by: mike d http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183423 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:47:26 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183423 I find I use the zero offsets a lot while working on my motorcycles. I, specifically use the gearwrench set pictured a lot because they're very narrow and fit into tight places. But I never use the ratchet end to break fasteners loose. I find I use the zero offsets a lot while working on my motorcycles. I, specifically use the gearwrench set pictured a lot because they’re very narrow and fit into tight places. But I never use the ratchet end to break fasteners loose.

]]> by: Peretz http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183408 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:19:33 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183408 i got one of those ratcheting crescent wrenches and they don't work in fact on the package it has a try me with a bolt there and its not a hex it curves in like a torx i got one of those ratcheting crescent wrenches and they don’t work in fact on the package it has a try me with a bolt there and its not a hex it curves in like a torx

]]> by: Adrian Gaucher http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183215 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:20:58 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183215 Well given I have had a set of these for a good while. I think its made by GearWrench even though they are called signet (got em from House Of Tools where I work aka Western Tools). I gotta say they are definitely useful and I love them. However being a tool lover I have search around and found a much greater solution to the tight spot wrench problem. It saves you having to get a whole set of em and just needing to carry one in your socket case. Its a ratcheting crescent wrench. It is mighty handy! http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=947608&recN=0&Ntt=947608&langId=-15&Ntk=level1&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&storeId=10051&Ntx=mode+matchall&N=0&catalogId=10051 Well given I have had a set of these for a good while. I think its made by GearWrench even though they are called signet (got em from House Of Tools where I work aka Western Tools). I gotta say they are definitely useful and I love them. However being a tool lover I have search around and found a much greater solution to the tight spot wrench problem. It saves you having to get a whole set of em and just needing to carry one in your socket case. Its a ratcheting crescent wrench. It is mighty handy!

http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=947608&recN=0&Ntt=947608&langId=-15&Ntk=level1&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&storeId=10051&Ntx=mode+matchall&N=0&catalogId=10051

]]> by: Toteadler http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183166 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:55:43 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183166 I am a marine engineer and work on large diesel engines and I prefer the zero-offset wrenches. Even on large equipment there is often barely clearance for the wrench. If you need to tighten something and then loosen it, just take it off and flip it around, its not that big of a deal. I am a marine engineer and work on large diesel engines and I prefer the zero-offset wrenches. Even on large equipment there is often barely clearance for the wrench. If you need to tighten something and then loosen it, just take it off and flip it around, its not that big of a deal.

]]> by: Peretz http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183094 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:50:05 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183094 http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947424000P?sbf=Brand&sbv=Craftsman&vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Wrenches Alright there is a 4th option and this is the best of all of them. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947424000P?sbf=Brand&sbv=Craftsman&vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Wrenches
Alright there is a 4th option and this is the best of all of them.

]]> by: Duncan Margetts http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183070 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:51:15 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183070 There's a 3rd option.. the flexhead gear wrenches.. unbeatable.. I just wish there was a reversible version of them.. https://www.toolsunlimited.com.au/shop/product_info.php?products_id=168&osCsid=534fb172e9ff2cb438ee38111f48617c And I further wish Sidchrome would make an AF version of them :( Dunc. There’s a 3rd option.. the flexhead gear wrenches.. unbeatable.. I just wish there was a reversible version of them..

https://www.toolsunlimited.com.au/shop/product_info.php?products_id=168&osCsid=534fb172e9ff2cb438ee38111f48617c

And I further wish Sidchrome would make an AF version of them :(

Dunc.

]]> by: Bob Price http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183041 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:38:48 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183041 However, if that 15 deg. offset wrench is 10 inches long you'll need 2.5 inches of clearance to get it on the fastener. Hence, the zero offset wrenches allow you to get into tight spaces. Both types are good to have, zero offset fits unique situations. Take a survey of what you work on most, i.e. cars, scooters, boats, English motorcycles, and then see where all the nuts and bolts are. You probably don't need a whole set. However, if that 15 deg. offset wrench is 10 inches long you’ll need 2.5 inches of clearance to get it on the fastener. Hence, the zero offset wrenches allow you to get into tight spaces.

Both types are good to have, zero offset fits unique situations. Take a survey of what you work on most, i.e. cars, scooters, boats, English motorcycles, and then see where all the nuts and bolts are. You probably don’t need a whole set.

]]> by: eschoendorff http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183040 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:38:36 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183040 I have both the one-way zero offsets and the reversible 15* offsets. I use both, but I tend to favor the reversibles. I have both the one-way zero offsets and the reversible 15* offsets. I use both, but I tend to favor the reversibles.

]]> by: Will http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183023 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:49:17 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/12/18/hot-or-not-zero-offset-ratcheting-wrenches/#comment-183023 I have a set of each Fractional Blue Points with the offset, and straight Metrics in Craftsman. I like the offset. Removing a bolt from a flat surface is hard without the offset. There just is not room for you fingers to get a good grip on the thing. Plus having to turn them over to tighten or loosen is a pain. I have a set of each Fractional Blue Points with the offset, and straight Metrics in Craftsman. I like the offset. Removing a bolt from a flat surface is hard without the offset. There just is not room for you fingers to get a good grip on the thing. Plus having to turn them over to tighten or loosen is a pain.

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