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	<title>Comments on: Hot or Not? Stainless Steel Cable Ties</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Cope</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/11/28/hot-or-not-stainless-steel-cable-ties/#comment-255064</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ties are cheap.  Wait till you see what the price of the tool is required for them.

You would have to go through a lot of ties to pay for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ties are cheap.  Wait till you see what the price of the tool is required for them.</p>
<p>You would have to go through a lot of ties to pay for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Toolmonger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Material Source: CableOrganizer.Com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toolmonger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Material Source: CableOrganizer.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recent talk of cable ties and velcro gripping straps around the Toolmonger offices makes me think it&#8217;s a good time to share my favorite source of cable management tools and supplies: CableOrganizer.com. Appropriatly named, CableOrganizer carries a wide variety of cable and wire management products &#8211; as well as a nice selection of Klein tools and other specialty items. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recent talk of cable ties and velcro gripping straps around the Toolmonger offices makes me think it&#8217;s a good time to share my favorite source of cable management tools and supplies: CableOrganizer.com. Appropriatly named, CableOrganizer carries a wide variety of cable and wire management products &#8211; as well as a nice selection of Klein tools and other specialty items. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Subvert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Subvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hot in the right situation. They're cheap and strong as hell. I'd say for the most part, I use a lot of the reusable zip ties, but I like having the metal option available too.

They're a bit of a pain (sometimes literally) to use though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hot in the right situation. They&#8217;re cheap and strong as hell. I&#8217;d say for the most part, I use a lot of the reusable zip ties, but I like having the metal option available too.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re a bit of a pain (sometimes literally) to use though.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding zip ties that break from UV - generally the black ones are UV stable while the 'clear' ones are not.  There are a lot of 'cheap' ones on the market now that are really poorly made and tend to slip.  Big Box ones are usually crap compared to the 'installer grade'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding zip ties that break from UV - generally the black ones are UV stable while the &#8216;clear&#8217; ones are not.  There are a lot of &#8216;cheap&#8217; ones on the market now that are really poorly made and tend to slip.  Big Box ones are usually crap compared to the &#8216;installer grade&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/11/28/hot-or-not-stainless-steel-cable-ties/#comment-168664</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Toolaremia's comment -- HOT for HOT applications.  We sell them for holding exhaust heat wrap in place.  They have, as they say, a thousand other uses too...

Don't forget that really heavy-duty crates and pallets (or odd-shaped bundles) are often shipped baled together with steel strap, which is a very similar concept if not exactly the same.  Super-strength, more rigid (and professional-looking) than wire, very weather-resistant.  What more could you ask for?  (Besides being cheap enough to be disposable -- but for super-temporary uses, these are generally overkill anyway.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Toolaremia&#8217;s comment &#8212; HOT for HOT applications.  We sell them for holding exhaust heat wrap in place.  They have, as they say, a thousand other uses too&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that really heavy-duty crates and pallets (or odd-shaped bundles) are often shipped baled together with steel strap, which is a very similar concept if not exactly the same.  Super-strength, more rigid (and professional-looking) than wire, very weather-resistant.  What more could you ask for?  (Besides being cheap enough to be disposable &#8212; but for super-temporary uses, these are generally overkill anyway.)</p>
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		<title>By: Toolaremia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toolaremia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
Seen that before. Very cool, but too time-consuming. Just stick a metal cable tie on it and move on. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
Seen that before. Very cool, but too time-consuming. Just stick a metal cable tie on it and move on. <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bickford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bickford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way neater:
http://www.clamptool.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way neater:<br />
<a href="http://www.clamptool.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.clamptool.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nate Bezanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Bezanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hot, definitely. They're impervious to ultraviolet, so they're useful in outdoor applications where even the black nylon ones wouldn't fare well. (Any spot with concentrated sun, like northern latitudes where a snow field might reflect additional light onto an exposed tie.) High temperature applications, too, obviously, and locations where abrasion is a concern.

I've also seen packages advertise that they're stable in nuclear radiation environments, which I guess makes sense. Can't have your cyclotron experimental target falling apart after a few hours on the beamline, can you? 

Also, they're conductive. This can be good, if you're trying to ground a shield. Or it can be bad, if an inductive ring around your feedline wasn't the desired result. Ground cables, in particular, shouldn't be "choked" by encirclement with unconnected metal, as it can delay the rise-time of the current pulse during a lightning strike, making the ground less effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hot, definitely. They&#8217;re impervious to ultraviolet, so they&#8217;re useful in outdoor applications where even the black nylon ones wouldn&#8217;t fare well. (Any spot with concentrated sun, like northern latitudes where a snow field might reflect additional light onto an exposed tie.) High temperature applications, too, obviously, and locations where abrasion is a concern.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also seen packages advertise that they&#8217;re stable in nuclear radiation environments, which I guess makes sense. Can&#8217;t have your cyclotron experimental target falling apart after a few hours on the beamline, can you? </p>
<p>Also, they&#8217;re conductive. This can be good, if you&#8217;re trying to ground a shield. Or it can be bad, if an inductive ring around your feedline wasn&#8217;t the desired result. Ground cables, in particular, shouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;choked&#8221; by encirclement with unconnected metal, as it can delay the rise-time of the current pulse during a lightning strike, making the ground less effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Rutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Rutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; I’d rather have a bucket-o-plastic ties for $5.

Clearly, you have fewer and less muscular hippies to restrain than some of us do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I’d rather have a bucket-o-plastic ties for $5.</p>
<p>Clearly, you have fewer and less muscular hippies to restrain than some of us do.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Schwind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Schwind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT.  For hot metal pipings I use wire and just snip/twist to length.  I'd rather have a bucket-o-plastic ties for $5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT.  For hot metal pipings I use wire and just snip/twist to length.  I&#8217;d rather have a bucket-o-plastic ties for $5.</p>
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		<title>By: Toolaremia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toolaremia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOT.  For HOT applications. Like holding the "non-stock" exhaust in-place on one of my cars. Beats the heck out of coat hangers or bailing wire.  I keep a few in my cars as emergency multipurpose ties.  Also good for steering rack boots. They definitely take more weather, sun, heat, and weight than plastic ties.  I generally use Panduit, but I bet these cheap Chinese knock-offs are good for 50% of the capacity, which isn't bad for the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOT.  For HOT applications. Like holding the &#8220;non-stock&#8221; exhaust in-place on one of my cars. Beats the heck out of coat hangers or bailing wire.  I keep a few in my cars as emergency multipurpose ties.  Also good for steering rack boots. They definitely take more weather, sun, heat, and weight than plastic ties.  I generally use Panduit, but I bet these cheap Chinese knock-offs are good for 50% of the capacity, which isn&#8217;t bad for the price.</p>
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