Comments on: Dealmonger: A Solid Titanium Hammer For $200 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:09:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jake http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-481131 Jake Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:35:47 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-481131 I swing a death stick, my foreman has a 14oz stiletto framing hammer, and I like it alot more, the face did flatten out pretty quick. I was told that the idea was since it's lighter you swing the hammer faster, same idea as a aluminum bat, and that's what gives it more force. I also talked to a union foreman that told me his Ti7 (dead on titanium hammer) grew some legs and walk away, which makes me nervious about spending $200+ on a hammer. I swing a death stick, my foreman has a 14oz stiletto framing hammer, and I like it alot more, the face did flatten out pretty quick. I was told that the idea was since it’s lighter you swing the hammer faster, same idea as a aluminum bat, and that’s what gives it more force. I also talked to a union foreman that told me his Ti7 (dead on titanium hammer) grew some legs and walk away, which makes me nervious about spending $200+ on a hammer.

]]> By: Darren http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-327403 Darren Sat, 24 May 2008 06:27:20 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-327403 Anyone who does not like this hammer has never tried one. I have had mine for almost two years and I can not even think about going back to any steel hammer. Physics arguments dont mean much when real world performance says otherwise. I am not driving more than a hundred nails a day, but it is still worth it. I still have to carry the hammer around on my hips all day long, so lighter is better. Also, if I have to take even a couple days off for tennis elbow or tendonitis, it would have paid for the hammer. I know older framers that have to quit framing because their elbow has been destroyed from years of swinging a steel hammer. 200 bucks is really cheap in my opinion. Anyone who does not like this hammer has never tried one. I have had mine for almost two years and I can not even think about going back to any steel hammer. Physics arguments dont mean much when real world performance says otherwise. I am not driving more than a hundred nails a day, but it is still worth it. I still have to carry the hammer around on my hips all day long, so lighter is better. Also, if I have to take even a couple days off for tennis elbow or tendonitis, it would have paid for the hammer. I know older framers that have to quit framing because their elbow has been destroyed from years of swinging a steel hammer. 200 bucks is really cheap in my opinion.

]]> By: Zathrus http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-292383 Zathrus Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:32:13 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-292383 Except that the physics aren't that simple. Most titanium hammers have a longer handle, which gives you a leverage advantage (and they can have the longer handle because of the lighter head and greater strength of the titanium). Additionally, titanium does deliver much more of the force to the nail than steel does -- Wikipedia claims 3% recoil vs 27% for steel. Oh, and that means a lot less force going back into your arm, which is less fatigue. No, I don't own one, I don't have any relationship w/ them, and I don't plan to own one (I simply don't have the need, given the cost), but the bad abuse of physics and silly logic arguments needed correcting. Except that the physics aren’t that simple.

Most titanium hammers have a longer handle, which gives you a leverage advantage (and they can have the longer handle because of the lighter head and greater strength of the titanium). Additionally, titanium does deliver much more of the force to the nail than steel does — Wikipedia claims 3% recoil vs 27% for steel. Oh, and that means a lot less force going back into your arm, which is less fatigue.

No, I don’t own one, I don’t have any relationship w/ them, and I don’t plan to own one (I simply don’t have the need, given the cost), but the bad abuse of physics and silly logic arguments needed correcting.

]]> By: Ryan http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-292352 Ryan Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:40:25 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-292352 Simple physics or logic can be used to prove that titamium hammers do not produce more force than a steel hammer which is of equal weight, more durable, and a fraction of the cost. In physics Force = Mass(weight) * (velocity/ time). Since titamium hammers are less weight they will produce less force at the same velocity. WHile they may look larger at their given weight they will not be equal in force to a heavier equally sized steel hammer. Logically, excluding the physics that I just gave, if a titanium hammer is more powerful than steel as claimed, because it is the same size as the heavier steel hammer why not take this step in bad logic to more of an extream? lets throw away those steel and titanium hammers and go tp the toy store and get a really large 2 oz plastic hammer, screw on a steel head and try to drive a framing nail. or make a giant hollow very strong .00000001 oz hammer with a large durable head and try to drive a finish nail... Force = mass * velocity/time and you can not get around that one simple law in physics. If you deny this then William is correct, your brain is too little, and I add that you are stubborn for trying to disprove simple physics. Simple physics or logic can be used to prove that titamium hammers do not produce more force than a steel hammer which is of equal weight, more durable, and a fraction of the cost. In physics Force = Mass(weight) * (velocity/ time). Since titamium hammers are less weight they will produce less force at the same velocity. WHile they may look larger at their given weight they will not be equal in force to a heavier equally sized steel hammer.

Logically, excluding the physics that I just gave, if a titanium hammer is more powerful than steel as claimed, because it is the same size as the heavier steel hammer why not take this step in bad logic to more of an extream? lets throw away those steel and titanium hammers and go tp the toy store and get a really large 2 oz plastic hammer, screw on a steel head and try to drive a framing nail. or make a giant hollow very strong .00000001 oz hammer with a large durable head and try to drive a finish nail…

Force = mass * velocity/time and you can not get around that one simple law in physics. If you deny this then William is correct, your brain is too little, and I add that you are stubborn for trying to disprove simple physics.

]]> By: William White http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-179954 William White Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:56:41 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-179954 A carpenter of 28 years, I rarely use a hammer any more except in demolition. Most of my nailing is with air guns and screws via drill are a big thing now. The tool belt is also mostly gone in favor of the small tool box which holds more , can be placed close by and poses no weight on the hips. The trade has changed a lot in my time and when cordless tools finally arrive [they are not even close yet] that will be a huge thing. The $200.00 hammer is just another penis extension for the posers and weekend warriors with way too much money and way too little brains. A carpenter of 28 years, I rarely use a hammer any more except in demolition. Most of my nailing is with air guns and screws via drill are a big thing now. The tool belt is also mostly gone in favor of the small tool box which holds more , can be placed close by and poses no weight on the hips. The trade has changed a lot in my time and when cordless tools finally arrive [they are not even close yet] that will be a huge thing.

The $200.00 hammer is just another penis extension for the posers and weekend warriors with way too much money and way too little brains.

]]> By: Brock http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-171267 Brock Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:25:03 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-171267 I admit I haven't ponied up the dough for the full Titanium 'TiBone" bad boy, but I own and use it's little brother. http://store.stilettotools.com/Detail.bok?no=21 And after 26 years of Estwing and Vaughn hammers (still own both original hammers), my elbow thanks me every day. Not to mention the 'Dimpler' http://store.stilettotools.com/Detail.bok?no=52 lightens my bags and makes nail removal oh so much easier and cleaner. They are worth every dollar and more, but are available for less than MSRP. They also come with a cool decal for the tool box. You should buy one or two, get one for the wife, she'll love it. I admit I haven’t ponied up the dough for the full Titanium ‘TiBone” bad boy, but I own and use it’s little brother.
http://store.stilettotools.com/Detail.bok?no=21
And after 26 years of Estwing and Vaughn hammers (still own both original hammers), my elbow thanks me every day. Not to mention the ‘Dimpler’ http://store.stilettotools.com/Detail.bok?no=52 lightens my bags and makes nail removal oh so much easier and cleaner. They are worth every dollar and more, but are available for less than MSRP. They also come with a cool decal for the tool box. You should buy one or two, get one for the wife, she’ll love it.

]]> By: Dan http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-166618 Dan Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:10:48 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-166618 Another cool (and much less expensive titanium item is a titanium <a href="http://www.superiortitanium.com" rel="nofollow">money clips</a> Another cool (and much less expensive titanium item is a titanium money clips

]]> By: michael healy http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-166524 michael healy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:12:46 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-166524 What kind of hack is Rick? "Even someone who only hammers a few hundred nails a day" If Rick actually worked a trade he would understand what repetition does to the body. With all of my air tools, I am still forced to break out the hammer more than I wish, but the titanium hammer is a godsend. I can jump from the roof trusses, to inside walls, to tico nails out on the deck, and still come home and type stupid comments to soft handed yuppy types. What kind of hack is Rick? “Even someone who only hammers a few hundred nails a day” If Rick actually worked a trade he would understand what repetition does to the body. With all of my air tools, I am still forced to break out the hammer more than I wish, but the titanium hammer is a godsend. I can jump from the roof trusses, to inside walls, to tico nails out on the deck, and still come home and type stupid comments to soft handed yuppy types.

]]> By: Cristiaan Carrera http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-129189 Cristiaan Carrera Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:58:43 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-129189 Dealmonger is involved in shilling tactics on EBAY. Dealmonger is involved in shilling tactics on EBAY.

]]> By: PutnamEco http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128855 PutnamEco Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:50:19 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128855 Funny, seems the only ones complaining about them, are ones who don't own one. Challenge, try one for a day. See if you still feel the same way afterwords. Funny, seems the only ones complaining about them, are ones who don’t own one.

Challenge, try one for a day. See if you still feel the same way afterwords.

]]> By: Rick http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128701 Rick Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:47:38 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128701 neat... yes... but seriously, I dont even think NASA would be buying that! maybe if you swing that hammer all day for a living it would be nice to have... but for anyone else, even someone who only hammers a few hundred nails a day, i dont think its worth it... jeez... who buys these things? are oil company executives becoming interested in DIY projects? neat… yes… but seriously, I dont even think NASA would be buying that! maybe if you swing that hammer all day for a living it would be nice to have… but for anyone else, even someone who only hammers a few hundred nails a day, i dont think its worth it… jeez… who buys these things? are oil company executives becoming interested in DIY projects?

]]> By: Sean http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128587 Sean Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:51:23 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128587 Titanium vibrates less than steel. Therefore the hammer transfers more of the force to the target. My elbow reminds me frequently that mine was a good investment. As for its softness, that was an problem in that the milled face on my hammer flattened out in a few months. I fixed that by making new grooves using dremel cutoff wheels. Titanium vibrates less than steel. Therefore the hammer transfers more of the force to the target. My elbow reminds me frequently that mine was a good investment.

As for its softness, that was an problem in that the milled face on my hammer flattened out in a few months. I fixed that by making new grooves using dremel cutoff wheels.

]]> By: Kaden http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128575 Kaden Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:26:38 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128575 EHSD... Expensive hammer, small dick. EHSD… Expensive hammer, small dick.

]]> By: Stiletto TiBone Solid Titanium Hammer - Mens Plaza http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128567 Stiletto TiBone Solid Titanium Hammer - Mens Plaza Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:02:35 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128567 [...] Dealmonger: A Solid Titanium Hammer For $200 [Toolmonger] [...] [...] Dealmonger: A Solid Titanium Hammer For $200 [Toolmonger] [...]

]]> By: TiH8r http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128524 TiH8r Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:48:00 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128524 Huh? Titanium is usually used because it's lighter than steel. But it's also softer than steel; wouldn't you prefer mass and hardness in a device designed to transfer momentum to pointy hard things percusively? Huh? Titanium is usually used because it’s lighter than steel. But it’s also softer than steel; wouldn’t you prefer mass and hardness in a device designed to transfer momentum to pointy hard things percusively?

]]> By: Psycho » Blog Archive » Stiletto TiBone Solid Titanium Hammer http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128508 Psycho » Blog Archive » Stiletto TiBone Solid Titanium Hammer Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:17:21 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128508 [...] Dealmonger: A Solid Titanium Hammer For $200 [Toolmonger] [...] [...] Dealmonger: A Solid Titanium Hammer For $200 [Toolmonger] [...]

]]> By: Ray http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128501 Ray Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:01:48 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/10/09/dealmonger-stiletto-tibone-solid-titanium-straight-handle-hammer-199/#comment-128501 I can't wait to buy this and put it in my cobalt blue Craftsman AXS "Tool Storage System" with weather sensor, accent lights and digital display :) I can’t wait to buy this and put it in my cobalt blue Craftsman AXS “Tool Storage System” with weather sensor, accent lights and digital display :)

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