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	<title>Comments on: Tip: Bet On Yourself &#8212; Not What Others Think</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-109936</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know where I learned the clamped-straightedge method of circ saw cutting?  Two sources: Norm Abrams and Tom Silva.  A person would have to get up pretty early in the morning to convince me that _they_ don't know what gives good, consistent results.

And JohnJ?  Excellent idea with the clamped support boards.  I will use that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know where I learned the clamped-straightedge method of circ saw cutting?  Two sources: Norm Abrams and Tom Silva.  A person would have to get up pretty early in the morning to convince me that _they_ don&#8217;t know what gives good, consistent results.</p>
<p>And JohnJ?  Excellent idea with the clamped support boards.  I will use that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim D</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102976</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Through experience, I've learned that large power tools allow to do everything much faster. Like, miscuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Through experience, I&#8217;ve learned that large power tools allow to do everything much faster. Like, miscuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Baca</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102915</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Baca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father and I built a beautiful linen shelf in a couple of days using little more than a circular saw, a pair of sawhorses and liberal doses of brainpower and patience.

I see that aluminum angle stock at the hardware store all the time. I bet it would be very useful for building a straightedge with a nice piece of hardwood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father and I built a beautiful linen shelf in a couple of days using little more than a circular saw, a pair of sawhorses and liberal doses of brainpower and patience.</p>
<p>I see that aluminum angle stock at the hardware store all the time. I bet it would be very useful for building a straightedge with a nice piece of hardwood.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102899</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's is an easy way to improve both the accuracy &#38; finish of the portable circ saw cut.  Simply make the cut slightly oversize, then re-adjust the guide and trim to the final size with a router.  

Yes, this too has limitations, but with a good straight edge (not any old chunk of scrap lumber) it's not hard to get a cut that will be fine for all but the most demanding needs. 

Oh  -   about the guide, I clamp support boards under the work to prevent it from moving around as the cut is made.  By clamping everything,  nothing moves as the cut is completed, and the accuracy is maintained for the full cut.  Sure, it's a lot of extra work, but for me, the results are worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s is an easy way to improve both the accuracy &amp; finish of the portable circ saw cut.  Simply make the cut slightly oversize, then re-adjust the guide and trim to the final size with a router.  </p>
<p>Yes, this too has limitations, but with a good straight edge (not any old chunk of scrap lumber) it&#8217;s not hard to get a cut that will be fine for all but the most demanding needs. </p>
<p>Oh  -   about the guide, I clamp support boards under the work to prevent it from moving around as the cut is made.  By clamping everything,  nothing moves as the cut is completed, and the accuracy is maintained for the full cut.  Sure, it&#8217;s a lot of extra work, but for me, the results are worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I built a DVD case with a circular saw and set of jigs that I built from straight edged plywood.  I used the jigs to do rabbets for the drawer bottoms and it worked great.  It takes a little more mental activity to figure out how to get the job done without all of Norm's tools, but it increases the bragging rights to say "I built it with a butter knife and a rock"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I built a DVD case with a circular saw and set of jigs that I built from straight edged plywood.  I used the jigs to do rabbets for the drawer bottoms and it worked great.  It takes a little more mental activity to figure out how to get the job done without all of Norm&#8217;s tools, but it increases the bragging rights to say &#8220;I built it with a butter knife and a rock&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lens</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102810</link>
		<dc:creator>lens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never have room for a table saw, but I've achieved the same results (maybe better) with Festool's circular saw and guides. The set up is not cheap but since space was more of a problem than cash, I sprung for the Festool rig. Their design also cuts Melamine without chipping. Once I had the guides, I also got their router. I know there are cheaper ways get these tools, but the convenience of their guides and clamps lets me get set up faster, so I actually do the project, rather than just think about it. That's important when I have to pull the car out of the garage to do anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never have room for a table saw, but I&#8217;ve achieved the same results (maybe better) with Festool&#8217;s circular saw and guides. The set up is not cheap but since space was more of a problem than cash, I sprung for the Festool rig. Their design also cuts Melamine without chipping. Once I had the guides, I also got their router. I know there are cheaper ways get these tools, but the convenience of their guides and clamps lets me get set up faster, so I actually do the project, rather than just think about it. That&#8217;s important when I have to pull the car out of the garage to do anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102717</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found an even easier way than hiring the neighbor kid.  Lowes charges $0.25 per cut and it's easier to haul the plywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found an even easier way than hiring the neighbor kid.  Lowes charges $0.25 per cut and it&#8217;s easier to haul the plywood.</p>
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		<title>By: TL</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102641</link>
		<dc:creator>TL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a bit of planning and effort you can do amazing things with hand tools.  What the big stuff gets you is speed and repeatable accuracy.  Instead of ten minutes of setup per cut with the circular saw, the tablesaw knocks that down to 30 seconds and lets you make repeated cuts even faster.  Often times for me that speed difference is the difference between a project I enjoy and one I cuss at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a bit of planning and effort you can do amazing things with hand tools.  What the big stuff gets you is speed and repeatable accuracy.  Instead of ten minutes of setup per cut with the circular saw, the tablesaw knocks that down to 30 seconds and lets you make repeated cuts even faster.  Often times for me that speed difference is the difference between a project I enjoy and one I cuss at.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102628</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah.. the websites for those two magazines are: 
http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/
and
http://www.popwood.com (what are we? 12? - quit the snickering - I'm serious :D )

I particularly like Woodworking Magazine as it's focused more on technique than tool reviews and the like and it's ad free. (though it's only published semi-annually I believe.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah.. the websites for those two magazines are:<br />
<a href="http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://www.popwood.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.popwood.com</a> (what are we? 12? - quit the snickering - I&#8217;m serious <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>I particularly like Woodworking Magazine as it&#8217;s focused more on technique than tool reviews and the like and it&#8217;s ad free. (though it&#8217;s only published semi-annually I believe.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Sean - 

This hits close to home as well - because I'm like many who are still fleshing things out (and saving for a house, and trying to keep a near-vintage german car on the road, and raising a 16 month old, and, and, and....).

I have access to my dad's stuff, but he doesn't have a heck of a lot. Basically his Dewalt 18v driver is the only thing of his that's really useful to me in building anything. Otherwise I've got the Ridgid circ saw (thanks to toolmonger.com and ridgid) that I've used just as you've described - a solid straightedge with some clamps. Depending on how I'm cutting I'll use either a pair of old saw horses or two picnic table benches side by side (for ripping sheets lengthwise). Haven't had a problem yet. 

What I've been researching lately is what I would need to do with hand tools to accomplish the same thing many are doing today with power thickness planers and jointers. Woodworking Magazine has been invaluable in helping with that (as has its sister publication Popular Woodworking.  You can do all of that with hand planes. And you don't have to buy expensive Lie Nielsen planes either. Yard sales, craigslist, etc. and invest some in a good sharpening setup (and time in learning how to get proper bevels, etc. on your plane irons, and you can pretty much build anything you can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Sean - </p>
<p>This hits close to home as well - because I&#8217;m like many who are still fleshing things out (and saving for a house, and trying to keep a near-vintage german car on the road, and raising a 16 month old, and, and, and&#8230;.).</p>
<p>I have access to my dad&#8217;s stuff, but he doesn&#8217;t have a heck of a lot. Basically his Dewalt 18v driver is the only thing of his that&#8217;s really useful to me in building anything. Otherwise I&#8217;ve got the Ridgid circ saw (thanks to toolmonger.com and ridgid) that I&#8217;ve used just as you&#8217;ve described - a solid straightedge with some clamps. Depending on how I&#8217;m cutting I&#8217;ll use either a pair of old saw horses or two picnic table benches side by side (for ripping sheets lengthwise). Haven&#8217;t had a problem yet. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve been researching lately is what I would need to do with hand tools to accomplish the same thing many are doing today with power thickness planers and jointers. Woodworking Magazine has been invaluable in helping with that (as has its sister publication Popular Woodworking.  You can do all of that with hand planes. And you don&#8217;t have to buy expensive Lie Nielsen planes either. Yard sales, craigslist, etc. and invest some in a good sharpening setup (and time in learning how to get proper bevels, etc. on your plane irons, and you can pretty much build anything you can think of.</p>
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		<title>By: F451</title>
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		<dc:creator>F451</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Bet On Yourself — Not What Others Think" Is THAT where I've gone wrong in life?! Aaaarrrggghhh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bet On Yourself — Not What Others Think&#8221; Is THAT where I&#8217;ve gone wrong in life?! Aaaarrrggghhh!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Murray</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102612</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting about this, as I am sure there are going to  be a lot of new woodworkers who will find this helpful.

All I ever heard when I started woodworking was how I needed a planer and a jointer and how without them, I would not be able to build nice furniture. I found this to be very disappointing and frustrating until I remembered how much furniture my father built with just a skil saw, table saw and router (all three that I have).  

All it takes is some imagination and creativity and you make anything you want with just some basic tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting about this, as I am sure there are going to  be a lot of new woodworkers who will find this helpful.</p>
<p>All I ever heard when I started woodworking was how I needed a planer and a jointer and how without them, I would not be able to build nice furniture. I found this to be very disappointing and frustrating until I remembered how much furniture my father built with just a skil saw, table saw and router (all three that I have).  </p>
<p>All it takes is some imagination and creativity and you make anything you want with just some basic tools.</p>
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		<title>By: McAngryPants</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102606</link>
		<dc:creator>McAngryPants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lesson #3: Wood putty is your friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesson #3: Wood putty is your friend</p>
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		<title>By: jgb</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102603</link>
		<dc:creator>jgb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to what Drew said.  I wouldn't dream of splitting a 4/8 sheet of plywood on my $100 portable table saw.  I used a circular saw with a straightedge to cut two sheets down the middle a few weeks ago to make some shelving though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to what Drew said.  I wouldn&#8217;t dream of splitting a 4/8 sheet of plywood on my $100 portable table saw.  I used a circular saw with a straightedge to cut two sheets down the middle a few weeks ago to make some shelving though.</p>
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		<title>By: Scraper</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102597</link>
		<dc:creator>Scraper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  There is always more than one right way.  I know a guy who has every woodworking power tool imaginable.  And another guy who does just about everything with a few hand tools.  Both create some incredible furniture.  The only difference is the fancy tool guy makes sawdust a whole lot faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  There is always more than one right way.  I know a guy who has every woodworking power tool imaginable.  And another guy who does just about everything with a few hand tools.  Both create some incredible furniture.  The only difference is the fancy tool guy makes sawdust a whole lot faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, All three Eric. He was stoked about the tools and the cash and the caffiene I throw in cause it's hot out in the shop. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, All three Eric. He was stoked about the tools and the cash and the caffiene I throw in cause it&#8217;s hot out in the shop. <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102589</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For long cuts on large sheets of plywood, I much prefer to use a clamped straight edge and a circ saw. My table saw is pretty minimalistic and I've no rollers to support  a large piece and (usually) no extra hands available. The circ saw + straight edge is pretty easy AND accurate compared to manhandling a 4'x8'x3/4" on a (low end) table saw. 

In conclusion: Yay go Sean!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For long cuts on large sheets of plywood, I much prefer to use a clamped straight edge and a circ saw. My table saw is pretty minimalistic and I&#8217;ve no rollers to support  a large piece and (usually) no extra hands available. The circ saw + straight edge is pretty easy AND accurate compared to manhandling a 4&#8242;x8&#8242;x3/4&#8243; on a (low end) table saw. </p>
<p>In conclusion: Yay go Sean!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the kid's parent's approval for allowing him to (1) work around power tools, (2) accept money, or (3) have a Dr. Pepper? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the kid&#8217;s parent&#8217;s approval for allowing him to (1) work around power tools, (2) accept money, or (3) have a Dr. Pepper? <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent observation Will, yes it would have fallen for sure. However I find the neighbors kid works great for that type of gig. I pay him $5 and a Dr. Pepper (with his parent’s approval of course) to borrow him for 30 mins and we both get a good deal and have a good time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent observation Will, yes it would have fallen for sure. However I find the neighbors kid works great for that type of gig. I pay him $5 and a Dr. Pepper (with his parent’s approval of course) to borrow him for 30 mins and we both get a good deal and have a good time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach on Brother Sean.  I'm still building out my meager shop.  I've built several things so far with the tools I have on hand (and a table saw wasn't one of them).  I've done full rip cuts like you describe.  It's not ideal, but it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preach on Brother Sean.  I&#8217;m still building out my meager shop.  I&#8217;ve built several things so far with the tools I have on hand (and a table saw wasn&#8217;t one of them).  I&#8217;ve done full rip cuts like you describe.  It&#8217;s not ideal, but it works.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/08/07/tip-bet-on-yourself-not-what-others-think/#comment-102563</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a naysayer but from the picture won't your straight-edge clamped to the wood fall off as you cut and quit holding your cut in place?  Shouldn't the straight-edge be on the other side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a naysayer but from the picture won&#8217;t your straight-edge clamped to the wood fall off as you cut and quit holding your cut in place?  Shouldn&#8217;t the straight-edge be on the other side?</p>
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