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		<title>By: TTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both my dad and I do a lot around our houses, including building from the ground up. My kids help me with projects, and I think the cycle will continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both my dad and I do a lot around our houses, including building from the ground up. My kids help me with projects, and I think the cycle will continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to stereos and computers, everyone in the family comes to me.

My grandfather likes to bust my chops about not being capable of fixing pipes or faucets or regular household tasks of that nature. The thing is, I never had to do those things before and there's no way to learn the skills until they're needed.

I like to think that I'm somewhat handy. Breaking and ruining things is part of the learning process, right? =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to stereos and computers, everyone in the family comes to me.</p>
<p>My grandfather likes to bust my chops about not being capable of fixing pipes or faucets or regular household tasks of that nature. The thing is, I never had to do those things before and there&#8217;s no way to learn the skills until they&#8217;re needed.</p>
<p>I like to think that I&#8217;m somewhat handy. Breaking and ruining things is part of the learning process, right? =)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd call it a toss up, my father grew up on a farm without power in the 30's and 40's and to this day doesn't mess around with electrical. I've rewired half my house. He knows nothing about computers and isn't much into working on cars 2 things I'm good. He much better at wood working than I am. One thing for sure is for most things around the house neither one of us pays someone else to fix it, except for him with electric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d call it a toss up, my father grew up on a farm without power in the 30&#8217;s and 40&#8217;s and to this day doesn&#8217;t mess around with electrical. I&#8217;ve rewired half my house. He knows nothing about computers and isn&#8217;t much into working on cars 2 things I&#8217;m good. He much better at wood working than I am. One thing for sure is for most things around the house neither one of us pays someone else to fix it, except for him with electric.</p>
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		<title>By: ScaryFast</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScaryFast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm more into technology stuff but whenever my dad and I combine forces to build something I find that he just doesn't take time to think about things properly. He just wants to get things done quickly (nothing he's ever done has ended quickly) while I try to think about the end results and the methods we use to get the job done.

Installing a shower in a basement bathroom? build a base out of 2x6's to keep the piping above the cement floor, place the shower base on top and get it all centered, then realize the basement ceiling is so low that the shower walls are too tall and even if you cut down the height, your head would have to go between the floor joists so you don't hit it. luckily there's no ceiling down there :P

And the new "wall" behind the shower where the piping goes is built out far enough that you lean against its edge when using the sink. But that's okay. we'll cut down the wall and stick the shower head pipe through the shower wall at about knee height and since we have some hose here we can run the shower head up to the top.

That shower never got finished. The copper piping was partially completed, but the last time I went to empty a cooler into the shower so the ice could melt and drain away I discovered the water leaking out from under the wooden base and had to mop it all up.

Some people should just admit defeat and call in the professionals. When I finally buy my own house I'm going to remember things like this and make sure my basement bathroom has a shower already or at least is tall enough to accomodate one.

And electrical wiring. hoo boy. most electrical outlets are placed low on a wall, I assume to hide the outlet and cables behind other not-so-tall objects that may be placed there. My father prefers the outlets at chest height. It saves a few feet of wire and means less crouching when installing them. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more into technology stuff but whenever my dad and I combine forces to build something I find that he just doesn&#8217;t take time to think about things properly. He just wants to get things done quickly (nothing he&#8217;s ever done has ended quickly) while I try to think about the end results and the methods we use to get the job done.</p>
<p>Installing a shower in a basement bathroom? build a base out of 2&#215;6&#8217;s to keep the piping above the cement floor, place the shower base on top and get it all centered, then realize the basement ceiling is so low that the shower walls are too tall and even if you cut down the height, your head would have to go between the floor joists so you don&#8217;t hit it. luckily there&#8217;s no ceiling down there <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And the new &#8220;wall&#8221; behind the shower where the piping goes is built out far enough that you lean against its edge when using the sink. But that&#8217;s okay. we&#8217;ll cut down the wall and stick the shower head pipe through the shower wall at about knee height and since we have some hose here we can run the shower head up to the top.</p>
<p>That shower never got finished. The copper piping was partially completed, but the last time I went to empty a cooler into the shower so the ice could melt and drain away I discovered the water leaking out from under the wooden base and had to mop it all up.</p>
<p>Some people should just admit defeat and call in the professionals. When I finally buy my own house I&#8217;m going to remember things like this and make sure my basement bathroom has a shower already or at least is tall enough to accomodate one.</p>
<p>And electrical wiring. hoo boy. most electrical outlets are placed low on a wall, I assume to hide the outlet and cables behind other not-so-tall objects that may be placed there. My father prefers the outlets at chest height. It saves a few feet of wire and means less crouching when installing them. <img src='http://toolmonger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: David Culberson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Culberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad got a degree in accounting, spent his time in business, moved on to get his doctorate in divinity and being a preacher.  He did work around the house, but it was mostly an exercise in frustration for him.  Rewiring phone jacks would take hours.  Nowadays, he calls me if he needs help with that stuff.

It's not that he's incapable of it - it's just that I actually enjoy it and find it relaxing.  He would be seething after a few setbacks, and I'll be saying "I wonder what's causing that!"

Different folks, different interests.  I'm sure my grandfather (who owned a trucking company and had an awesome basement workshop) would've put me to shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad got a degree in accounting, spent his time in business, moved on to get his doctorate in divinity and being a preacher.  He did work around the house, but it was mostly an exercise in frustration for him.  Rewiring phone jacks would take hours.  Nowadays, he calls me if he needs help with that stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that he&#8217;s incapable of it - it&#8217;s just that I actually enjoy it and find it relaxing.  He would be seething after a few setbacks, and I&#8217;ll be saying &#8220;I wonder what&#8217;s causing that!&#8221;</p>
<p>Different folks, different interests.  I&#8217;m sure my grandfather (who owned a trucking company and had an awesome basement workshop) would&#8217;ve put me to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. My grandfather had us both beat with cabinetry and woodworking. Dad was better at me with electronics, but he never moved over to digital. On other stuff, I 'd say we were about equal. Now? He's got Alzheimer's and is doing good to remember what the different tools are. I learned a lot from him, but not enough. Too late now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. My grandfather had us both beat with cabinetry and woodworking. Dad was better at me with electronics, but he never moved over to digital. On other stuff, I &#8216;d say we were about equal. Now? He&#8217;s got Alzheimer&#8217;s and is doing good to remember what the different tools are. I learned a lot from him, but not enough. Too late now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growing up on the farm with my dad I learned a lot. Therefore, I'm very handy and also willing to do anything myself rather than paying someone.  It sounds bad but I'm more detailed than my dad but I give him the advantage of metal work.
On the other hand, like so many on this blog, I'm Computer Science involved during the day and so know how to stand my man on the electronics side as well.

Well, thanks dad for the given knowledge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up on the farm with my dad I learned a lot. Therefore, I&#8217;m very handy and also willing to do anything myself rather than paying someone.  It sounds bad but I&#8217;m more detailed than my dad but I give him the advantage of metal work.<br />
On the other hand, like so many on this blog, I&#8217;m Computer Science involved during the day and so know how to stand my man on the electronics side as well.</p>
<p>Well, thanks dad for the given knowledge!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very interesting that a few software programmers have already commented that they're also fairly handy.  I'm a software engineer, but after a stint in stage construction during junior college, I discovered what I really like is building things, whether it be a wall, or a computer application.  Anyway, I am surprised, though I shouldn't be, that others seem to be similarly inclined towards building, whether it be electronic or carpentry.

To the question at hand, as I get older and fix stuff around the house, I'm catching up with Dad a bit, but he still beats the pants off me in knowledge (and the ability to fake it when he doesn't know).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very interesting that a few software programmers have already commented that they&#8217;re also fairly handy.  I&#8217;m a software engineer, but after a stint in stage construction during junior college, I discovered what I really like is building things, whether it be a wall, or a computer application.  Anyway, I am surprised, though I shouldn&#8217;t be, that others seem to be similarly inclined towards building, whether it be electronic or carpentry.</p>
<p>To the question at hand, as I get older and fix stuff around the house, I&#8217;m catching up with Dad a bit, but he still beats the pants off me in knowledge (and the ability to fake it when he doesn&#8217;t know).</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel fortunate to have spent my early car-guy years working for the family business: an Auto Repair Shop. So, there was a time when I could fix damn near anything.
Now that I've moved away from home (and all the cool toys, er, tools of my dad's), I'm finding myself to be a little more inventive in how I go about fixing things on my cars.
My father has taught me how to make "specialty tools" out of what we already had in the box, and if it didn't work/broke, we could trade it when the candyman, er, Snap-On Rep came around.
Everything else that has to do with being handy, I have him beat. Although, fortunately, I haven't had to BE that handy (yet...), I have the theory part down like mad. What worries me is the practice part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel fortunate to have spent my early car-guy years working for the family business: an Auto Repair Shop. So, there was a time when I could fix damn near anything.<br />
Now that I&#8217;ve moved away from home (and all the cool toys, er, tools of my dad&#8217;s), I&#8217;m finding myself to be a little more inventive in how I go about fixing things on my cars.<br />
My father has taught me how to make &#8220;specialty tools&#8221; out of what we already had in the box, and if it didn&#8217;t work/broke, we could trade it when the candyman, er, Snap-On Rep came around.<br />
Everything else that has to do with being handy, I have him beat. Although, fortunately, I haven&#8217;t had to BE that handy (yet&#8230;), I have the theory part down like mad. What worries me is the practice part.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like someone else point my dad has the advantage of a few year head start in this competition.  He's been a professional plumber for as long as I've been alive, so I'll never be as good at naming the brand of stem on site or quickly taking apart a toilet to fix it and putting it back together.  But my dad doesn't know much about computer or electronics.  I learned most of what I know from him and benefited from the education.  I think I will always be asking his advice on how to tackle a new project around the house and occasionally asking his help if its something I know he's good at.  I don't think I'll ever be able to smooth concrete like him.  

He's got the lead today, but I think over the long run I will be more handy as long as I work at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like someone else point my dad has the advantage of a few year head start in this competition.  He&#8217;s been a professional plumber for as long as I&#8217;ve been alive, so I&#8217;ll never be as good at naming the brand of stem on site or quickly taking apart a toilet to fix it and putting it back together.  But my dad doesn&#8217;t know much about computer or electronics.  I learned most of what I know from him and benefited from the education.  I think I will always be asking his advice on how to tackle a new project around the house and occasionally asking his help if its something I know he&#8217;s good at.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever be able to smooth concrete like him.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s got the lead today, but I think over the long run I will be more handy as long as I work at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and Stereo/802.11 installs and all of that - I got that covered as it's my career. My dad just knows how to click on links and check his email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and Stereo/802.11 installs and all of that - I got that covered as it&#8217;s my career. My dad just knows how to click on links and check his email.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's a toss-up.  Echoing a lot of sentiments already expressed, Dad was probably about as handy as I am at my age. He's got the unfair advantage of having a few years experience over me. Also, his core competencies are a bit different from mine.  He started off as a mason's apprentice when he was 16. But ultimately ended up working at a GM Plant here in NY for the last 34 years of his career. That said, he really expanded his skills set when he bought the house they are in now (about 35 years ago). He learned the hard way - trying stuff, redoing it, etc. He says if he knew today what he knows now (and what I also have the benefit of knowing early on) he would have saved himself a lot of work and a lot of time. 

That said, our interests are also different. Where he would rather pay someone to work on his car, he does all his own landscaping - even about to hit 70 this year, he still does all of the plantings around the house, etc. etc. Can't tell you how many times I've had neighbors tell me how nice the house looks, etc. 

On the other hand, I'd rather wrench on my own car than pay anyone to do it - but landscaping - forget it. I did a stint a few summers in High School and never again. Hate it.  So I've tackled some stuff he hasn't dared on my car - and he's tackled stuff out in the yard that I won't go near. 

Neither one of us is much into the furniture making, etc.  But I am hoping to get into that with some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a toss-up.  Echoing a lot of sentiments already expressed, Dad was probably about as handy as I am at my age. He&#8217;s got the unfair advantage of having a few years experience over me. Also, his core competencies are a bit different from mine.  He started off as a mason&#8217;s apprentice when he was 16. But ultimately ended up working at a GM Plant here in NY for the last 34 years of his career. That said, he really expanded his skills set when he bought the house they are in now (about 35 years ago). He learned the hard way - trying stuff, redoing it, etc. He says if he knew today what he knows now (and what I also have the benefit of knowing early on) he would have saved himself a lot of work and a lot of time. </p>
<p>That said, our interests are also different. Where he would rather pay someone to work on his car, he does all his own landscaping - even about to hit 70 this year, he still does all of the plantings around the house, etc. etc. Can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve had neighbors tell me how nice the house looks, etc. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;d rather wrench on my own car than pay anyone to do it - but landscaping - forget it. I did a stint a few summers in High School and never again. Hate it.  So I&#8217;ve tackled some stuff he hasn&#8217;t dared on my car - and he&#8217;s tackled stuff out in the yard that I won&#8217;t go near. </p>
<p>Neither one of us is much into the furniture making, etc.  But I am hoping to get into that with some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dad's got me beat plan and simple.  Even worse, my little brother's got me beat too.  I can only win on ideas (whereas they will only build something or work on something already made, I like to build new things) and and the ability to communicate - I teach what I know to the kids I work with.  Around my house though, I'm the handyman with anything mechanical...and my gal does the electronic work.  She's an electrical engineer. 

I will say this though.  According to my mother, I know more than the old man knew at my age; but as already stated, the old man keeps learning new tricks.  I can't seem to keep up.   And he has all the cool toys.  I just have a circ saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dad&#8217;s got me beat plan and simple.  Even worse, my little brother&#8217;s got me beat too.  I can only win on ideas (whereas they will only build something or work on something already made, I like to build new things) and and the ability to communicate - I teach what I know to the kids I work with.  Around my house though, I&#8217;m the handyman with anything mechanical&#8230;and my gal does the electronic work.  She&#8217;s an electrical engineer. </p>
<p>I will say this though.  According to my mother, I know more than the old man knew at my age; but as already stated, the old man keeps learning new tricks.  I can&#8217;t seem to keep up.   And he has all the cool toys.  I just have a circ saw.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Donn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Donn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We weren't poor when I was a kid, but there wasn't a lot of money. Certainly not enough to pay somebody else to fix basic stuff around the house and garage. I was usually at the old man's elbow, drafted to "help" ( read hold the flash light). As I got older, I learned to pay attention when dad helped me with basic electricity, plumbing, car repair etc. He'd been there, done that many times over.  He was better than me when he was younger and healthy. As he got older, I caught up. The irony? My brother is the complete opposite, couldn't care less. Pays other people for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We weren&#8217;t poor when I was a kid, but there wasn&#8217;t a lot of money. Certainly not enough to pay somebody else to fix basic stuff around the house and garage. I was usually at the old man&#8217;s elbow, drafted to &#8220;help&#8221; ( read hold the flash light). As I got older, I learned to pay attention when dad helped me with basic electricity, plumbing, car repair etc. He&#8217;d been there, done that many times over.  He was better than me when he was younger and healthy. As he got older, I caught up. The irony? My brother is the complete opposite, couldn&#8217;t care less. Pays other people for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaos.rox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaos.rox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dad taught me all that I know about repair, building, working on cars, and I expanded on that by adding computer and electronics technology elements as well.  I'd have to say that Dad probably would be good at that too if he had the opportunities I had.  I call it a tie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dad taught me all that I know about repair, building, working on cars, and I expanded on that by adding computer and electronics technology elements as well.  I&#8217;d have to say that Dad probably would be good at that too if he had the opportunities I had.  I call it a tie.</p>
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		<title>By: Fong</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94571</link>
		<dc:creator>Fong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it wasn't for the physical resemblence, I'd swear I was adopted.  Besides biology, we have nothing else in common.  I learned everything through formal education, friends (and their dads), books, and now fellow toolmongers and bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for the physical resemblence, I&#8217;d swear I was adopted.  Besides biology, we have nothing else in common.  I learned everything through formal education, friends (and their dads), books, and now fellow toolmongers and bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94564</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad was (he unfortunately is suffering through Alzheimer's currently) much handier with coding, locksmithing and circuit design. 

I'm much handier building things and repairing things (from umbrellas and computers to houses and furniture).

I think it really comes down to interest with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad was (he unfortunately is suffering through Alzheimer&#8217;s currently) much handier with coding, locksmithing and circuit design. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m much handier building things and repairing things (from umbrellas and computers to houses and furniture).</p>
<p>I think it really comes down to interest with us.</p>
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		<title>By: TL</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94557</link>
		<dc:creator>TL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two areas where my dad has me beat are cabinetry finish work (sanding , staining, etc) and anything to to with landscaping / gardening.  He's far better at finishing (or refinishing) cabinetry than anybody else I've ever met because he has the patience to keep rubbing until it's perfect.  His skill with landscaping is so far beyond mine it makes me sad.  For most general home repair work (putting in a new wall, plumbing, painting, etc) we are fairly equal.  

Where I think I have the edge is in anything automotive (he hates working on cars), electrical (he's never studied the theory side of things so he ends up intimidated), or nerd based.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two areas where my dad has me beat are cabinetry finish work (sanding , staining, etc) and anything to to with landscaping / gardening.  He&#8217;s far better at finishing (or refinishing) cabinetry than anybody else I&#8217;ve ever met because he has the patience to keep rubbing until it&#8217;s perfect.  His skill with landscaping is so far beyond mine it makes me sad.  For most general home repair work (putting in a new wall, plumbing, painting, etc) we are fairly equal.  </p>
<p>Where I think I have the edge is in anything automotive (he hates working on cars), electrical (he&#8217;s never studied the theory side of things so he ends up intimidated), or nerd based.</p>
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		<title>By: ambush27</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94534</link>
		<dc:creator>ambush27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad was never much for mechanical things, he hasn't even ever changed the oil in his lawnmower, but he did build a fence, deck and porch and he did do a lot of other renovations to the home, so I guess we're just different that way. I'm into fixing things a lot more, whereas he was into improving things and architecture and design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad was never much for mechanical things, he hasn&#8217;t even ever changed the oil in his lawnmower, but he did build a fence, deck and porch and he did do a lot of other renovations to the home, so I guess we&#8217;re just different that way. I&#8217;m into fixing things a lot more, whereas he was into improving things and architecture and design.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Bezanson</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94530</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Bezanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the characterization that spending time "with the kids" and "on home repair" are mutually exlusive! What better way to spend time with the kids than teaching them a useful skill and ensuring that they won't go through life ignorant of how things really work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the characterization that spending time &#8220;with the kids&#8221; and &#8220;on home repair&#8221; are mutually exlusive! What better way to spend time with the kids than teaching them a useful skill and ensuring that they won&#8217;t go through life ignorant of how things really work?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94520</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with some of the others here.  I'm a computer programmer by trade, so I like to tinker a lot.  I'd say that in just the past few years, that I'm on par with my father in terms of 'handiness' but he still edges me out in just plain experience.  But I'll fix a toilet, install shelves, build a table, etc...  

And stereos and 802.11g?  No problem.  I've got my own data center and music studio to boot.  I've got 5 Battery backup units so most of that stays up even during a power outage.

I still think my dad has me beat on general woodworking design.  I tend to over-engineer things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with some of the others here.  I&#8217;m a computer programmer by trade, so I like to tinker a lot.  I&#8217;d say that in just the past few years, that I&#8217;m on par with my father in terms of &#8216;handiness&#8217; but he still edges me out in just plain experience.  But I&#8217;ll fix a toilet, install shelves, build a table, etc&#8230;  </p>
<p>And stereos and 802.11g?  No problem.  I&#8217;ve got my own data center and music studio to boot.  I&#8217;ve got 5 Battery backup units so most of that stays up even during a power outage.</p>
<p>I still think my dad has me beat on general woodworking design.  I tend to over-engineer things.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94506</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Father and I are differently handied, though there is a lot of overlap. In the normal trajectory of these things, Dad was a machinist and I am an engineer.

Dad had the full skill set of make it, make it do, or do without that goes with growing up in the depression. My handiness is guided more by possibilites than necessity. There is enough abundance in my life that failure IS an option. I can try things that are rather experimental without serious loss if things don't work out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Father and I are differently handied, though there is a lot of overlap. In the normal trajectory of these things, Dad was a machinist and I am an engineer.</p>
<p>Dad had the full skill set of make it, make it do, or do without that goes with growing up in the depression. My handiness is guided more by possibilites than necessity. There is enough abundance in my life that failure IS an option. I can try things that are rather experimental without serious loss if things don&#8217;t work out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94502</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://sippicancottage.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sippican cottage&lt;/a&gt; (a great blog for people interested in furniture and architecture by the way) and Popular Mechanics are talking about this today as well. 

I'm pretty handy, though not handier than my dad.  

I've got a bit of an unusual background here. I'm an aerospace engineer by training, and an Information Security Consultant by trade; but I build my own furniture, fix everything around the house that doesn't require a license etc... 

My dad on the other hand is a master stonemason with 35 years in the trade. I've got him beat on electrical and electronics work, and carpentry, but the rest I couldn't touch.  

I managed to acquire the skills the old fashioned way, in a manner of speaking...

My first real job was in my uncle Carls furniture restoration shop; where I learned cabinetry, finish carpentry, and finishing.

When there wasn't enough to do in the finishing shop I worked on my cousins (and I've got a lot of them) framing, drywalling, painting, and electrical job sites.

I was never going to be a tradesman (I started engineering school at 16, went from there to the Air Force; and then into information and physical security consulting); but it was a good collection of useful skills that I enjoyed; and that earned me good money for a teenager.

Thing is, I'm a typical Boston Irish Catholic. My father is a master stonemason. My cousins and uncles are roofers and framers and painters and electricians. The rest of my family are lawyers, cops, teachers, and criminals.

I learned at their feet so to speak; and it has stood me well, in building everything from furniture, to significant portions of my own house.

I guess a lot of folks don't have that same opportunity anymore though; which is too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sippicancottage.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Sippican cottage</a> (a great blog for people interested in furniture and architecture by the way) and Popular Mechanics are talking about this today as well. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty handy, though not handier than my dad.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a bit of an unusual background here. I&#8217;m an aerospace engineer by training, and an Information Security Consultant by trade; but I build my own furniture, fix everything around the house that doesn&#8217;t require a license etc&#8230; </p>
<p>My dad on the other hand is a master stonemason with 35 years in the trade. I&#8217;ve got him beat on electrical and electronics work, and carpentry, but the rest I couldn&#8217;t touch.  </p>
<p>I managed to acquire the skills the old fashioned way, in a manner of speaking&#8230;</p>
<p>My first real job was in my uncle Carls furniture restoration shop; where I learned cabinetry, finish carpentry, and finishing.</p>
<p>When there wasn&#8217;t enough to do in the finishing shop I worked on my cousins (and I&#8217;ve got a lot of them) framing, drywalling, painting, and electrical job sites.</p>
<p>I was never going to be a tradesman (I started engineering school at 16, went from there to the Air Force; and then into information and physical security consulting); but it was a good collection of useful skills that I enjoyed; and that earned me good money for a teenager.</p>
<p>Thing is, I&#8217;m a typical Boston Irish Catholic. My father is a master stonemason. My cousins and uncles are roofers and framers and painters and electricians. The rest of my family are lawyers, cops, teachers, and criminals.</p>
<p>I learned at their feet so to speak; and it has stood me well, in building everything from furniture, to significant portions of my own house.</p>
<p>I guess a lot of folks don&#8217;t have that same opportunity anymore though; which is too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (litcritter)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike (litcritter)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  I figure I'm about as handy now as he was at my age.  The problem is that he keeps learning new things! 

That said, there are one or two things I know a bit more about than he does.  He called me when he was setting up a home theater, for example, but I consult with him on cabinetry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  I figure I&#8217;m about as handy now as he was at my age.  The problem is that he keeps learning new things! </p>
<p>That said, there are one or two things I know a bit more about than he does.  He called me when he was setting up a home theater, for example, but I consult with him on cabinetry.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan R.</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/17/are-you-less-handy-around-the-house-than-your-dad/#comment-94491</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked construction as a summer job while in architecture school, I beat the pants off my father in almost all things handyman. He used to drive me crazy insisting on do things his way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked construction as a summer job while in architecture school, I beat the pants off my father in almost all things handyman. He used to drive me crazy insisting on do things his way.</p>
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