Comments on: Dealmonger: Craftsman Metric Stubby Set For $100 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:37:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Spanky http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-249439 Spanky Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:26:41 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-249439 I have just seen the pawless wrenches in the new Craftsman catalog. They look like sprag drive. Can anyone tell me if this is the case or is it something diffrent? I cant wait to get to Sears to check them out but I don't know how long it will be before I can get there. Steve-o and Tank it sounds like you guys have some firsthand knowledge. I have just seen the pawless wrenches in the new Craftsman catalog. They look like sprag drive. Can anyone tell me if this is the case or is it something diffrent? I cant wait to get to Sears to check them out but I don’t know how long it will be before I can get there. Steve-o and Tank it sounds like you guys have some firsthand knowledge.

]]> By: Steve O http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-95224 Steve O Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:38:17 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-95224 Yeah - the pawless wrenches aren't built for finesse. We use them for breaking loose and ratcheting the high-torque stuff - more industrial use than automotive. Yeah - the pawless wrenches aren’t built for finesse. We use them for breaking loose and ratcheting the high-torque stuff - more industrial use than automotive.

]]> By: Tank http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-95024 Tank Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:55:04 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-95024 We have a set of those at work, but I think it's an 8-piece set. They never get used. The ratcheting is like something from the 1930's. We have a set of those at work, but I think it’s an 8-piece set. They never get used. The ratcheting is like something from the 1930’s.

]]> By: Steve O http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94782 Steve O Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:20:47 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94782 Tank / Stuey - If you want torque in a ratcheting wrench, try the pawless design by Danaher Tool (Craftsman, Armstrong, Lowes). The Husky Pro line can't come close to this heavy duty ratcheting wrench. The Pawl will fail in high torque applications. Google this: Craftsman 14 pc. Pawless Ratcheting Wrench Set Sears item #00942435000 Mfr. model #42435 Tank / Stuey -

If you want torque in a ratcheting wrench, try the pawless design by Danaher Tool (Craftsman, Armstrong, Lowes). The Husky Pro line can’t come close to this heavy duty ratcheting wrench. The Pawl will fail in high torque applications.

Google this:
Craftsman 14 pc. Pawless Ratcheting Wrench Set

Sears item #00942435000 Mfr. model #42435

]]> By: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94249 Stuey Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:43:28 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94249 I felt up the Craftsman reversible ratchet wrenches (fixed head) and they feel pretty good, almost identical to the GearWrench ones. I don't like the feel of the non-reversible ones though; they just don't feel right. Next time I'm at HD w/ a gift card, I'll take a look at the Husky Pro line as Tank suggested. Thanks for the headsup! On another note, the catalog quotes these flex-head stubbies as $109. So at $100, it's a deal but not immense deal. That doesn't really matter though since these are probably tools that you NEED when you need them. I felt up the Craftsman reversible ratchet wrenches (fixed head) and they feel pretty good, almost identical to the GearWrench ones. I don’t like the feel of the non-reversible ones though; they just don’t feel right.

Next time I’m at HD w/ a gift card, I’ll take a look at the Husky Pro line as Tank suggested. Thanks for the headsup!

On another note, the catalog quotes these flex-head stubbies as $109. So at $100, it’s a deal but not immense deal. That doesn’t really matter though since these are probably tools that you NEED when you need them.

]]> By: Tank http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94169 Tank Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:13:32 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94169 For ratcheting wrenches, the Husky Pro line is actually better quality than Craftsman. They'll take more torque without breaking, and the ratchet pawl will last longer. I don't know about Home Depot's traditional wrenches. For ratcheting wrenches, the Husky Pro line is actually better quality than Craftsman. They’ll take more torque without breaking, and the ratchet pawl will last longer. I don’t know about Home Depot’s traditional wrenches.

]]> By: John http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94005 John Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:25:05 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-94005 I must just be cheap, because any set of 7 wrenches for $100 isn't a deal to me. They'd have to throw in Bob Villa as well to make it worth it. I mean, you can get a decent craftsman mechanics set for that. I must just be cheap, because any set of 7 wrenches for $100 isn’t a deal to me. They’d have to throw in Bob Villa as well to make it worth it. I mean, you can get a decent craftsman mechanics set for that.

]]> By: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93976 Stuey Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:17:02 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93976 You've got GearWrench ratcheting (non-reversable) ones for $50 also. http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?pid=00944034000 Steve O, did you have or read about bad experiences with the Huskys or are you (as I am) just randomly biased against them? You’ve got GearWrench ratcheting (non-reversable) ones for $50 also.
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?pid=00944034000

Steve O, did you have or read about bad experiences with the Huskys or are you (as I am) just randomly biased against them?

]]> By: Steve O http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93920 Steve O Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:16:33 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93920 Yeah, but Home Depot's wrenches stink... I wouldn't buy anything there! Yeah, but Home Depot’s wrenches stink… I wouldn’t buy anything there!

]]> By: Tank http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93742 Tank Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:25:21 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93742 You can buy the stubby reversible ratcheting set at Home Depot for $55 bucks. More useful than a stubby locking flex. You can buy the stubby reversible ratcheting set at Home Depot for $55 bucks. More useful than a stubby locking flex.

]]> By: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93731 Stuey Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:55:53 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93731 Hmm, it cut out my "less than" sign. Anyways, I meant to say, $65 is still less than $100. Hmm, it cut out my “less than” sign. Anyways, I meant to say, $65 is still less than $100.

]]> By: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93525 Stuey Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:33:01 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93525 Yes, one at a time does get expensive and suggesting it went against my nature, but if you only need three sizes, $65 Yes, one at a time does get expensive and suggesting it went against my nature, but if you only need three sizes, $65

]]> By: Old Donn http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93171 Old Donn Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:57:56 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93171 The uses for these are pretty limited. Are they worth a "C" note? Guess that's up to you. The problem these share with other ratcheting boxes is clearence. They won't fit into tight spaces. If you need stubbys, the standard issue will do. Aside to Stuey. One at a time gets pretty expensive. The uses for these are pretty limited. Are they worth a “C” note? Guess that’s up to you. The problem these share with other ratcheting boxes is clearence. They won’t fit into tight spaces. If you need stubbys, the standard issue will do. Aside to Stuey. One at a time gets pretty expensive.

]]> By: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93137 Stuey Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:49:35 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/14/dealmonger-craftsman-metric-stubby-set-100-exp-0714/#comment-93137 What's great about these is that you can lock the angle in; you cannot do that with some others such as Gearwrench ones. The downside to this is that the ratchet mechanism is not reversible. While I've needed to use a stubby every now and then, I don't think I'd go for a flex-head stubby set, especially at this price. If anything, I think that a set of fixed-head stubbies and a set of full sized flex-heads might be a better mix of tools. Also, if you have to adjust these to a steep angle, you're going to have a very difficult time turning the fastener. A regularly sized wrench set to the same angle is going to provide at least double the torque. If I ever find myself needing flex-head stubbies, I'll likely either improvise somehow or buy them one size at a time. What’s great about these is that you can lock the angle in; you cannot do that with some others such as Gearwrench ones. The downside to this is that the ratchet mechanism is not reversible.

While I’ve needed to use a stubby every now and then, I don’t think I’d go for a flex-head stubby set, especially at this price. If anything, I think that a set of fixed-head stubbies and a set of full sized flex-heads might be a better mix of tools.

Also, if you have to adjust these to a steep angle, you’re going to have a very difficult time turning the fastener. A regularly sized wrench set to the same angle is going to provide at least double the torque.

If I ever find myself needing flex-head stubbies, I’ll likely either improvise somehow or buy them one size at a time.

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