Comments on: Made in the USA: Build Shelves The Lazy Way — Easily! http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:05:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-92400 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:12:48 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-92400 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZBM4U/ Headsup - they have a standalone shelf kit that just went on sale as part of Amazon's Friday sale. $20 for 6 end pieces (3 shelves). The typical price was $30 which I think is a bit high. But for this price, one can build a 6 shelf unit for $40, a bit less than any readily avaialble steel or plastic unit even after the cost of wood. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000DZBM4U/

Headsup - they have a standalone shelf kit that just went on sale as part of Amazon’s Friday sale.

$20 for 6 end pieces (3 shelves). The typical price was $30 which I think is a bit high. But for this price, one can build a 6 shelf unit for $40, a bit less than any readily avaialble steel or plastic unit even after the cost of wood.

]]> by: sean http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88468 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:56:41 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88468 The image in not just the shelflinks product, but the "workbench legs" product with a set of shelflinks built on top. The image in not just the shelflinks product, but the “workbench legs” product with a set of shelflinks built on top.

]]> by: Ken http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88414 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:57:13 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88414 Another thing you can't buy just the legs for the bench. Another thing you can’t buy just the legs for the bench.

]]> by: Ken http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88413 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:55:36 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88413 It seems like a good idea.But its kind of pricey for 10 pieces of plastic. It seems like a good idea.But its kind of pricey for 10 pieces of plastic.

]]> by: Brau http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88160 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:03:23 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88160 The design of the bottom is okay, but the top? I'm sorry but those 2x4s will sag like an old nag very quickly. I might also add that all the supplies shown here could build this worktable *without* the prefabbed corners and probably better supported. The design of the bottom is okay, but the top? I’m sorry but those 2×4s will sag like an old nag very quickly. I might also add that all the supplies shown here could build this worktable *without* the prefabbed corners and probably better supported.

]]> by: Nate Bezanson http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88105 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:33:28 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88105 Okay, a shed with insulation and a vapor barrier? I love the smell of over-engineering in the morning! Chris, it sounds like you should be looking at Simpson Strong-Tie brackets: http://www.strongtie.com Okay, a shed with insulation and a vapor barrier? I love the smell of over-engineering in the morning! Chris, it sounds like you should be looking at Simpson Strong-Tie brackets: http://www.strongtie.com

]]> by: Chris Byrne http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88045 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:31:25 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88045 I've been thinking about their shed kits for a storage shed for about a year now... I need a shed big enough that I can work in it, but haven't had the budget to build one. If I use one of the 2X4 basics kits I can get the shed done for about 2/3 what stick building it the way I want to would cost... that means it would actually get done some time in the next few months rather than in a year or more when I have the budget. The problem I have is, making a 10'x22' structure with all 2x4 framing on 24" centers just seems like a bad idea to me. If I were stick building it by hand I'd use 2x6 floor joists, rafters, and ridge beams; and I'd frame on 16" centers for all but the rafters. If I were just going for a small storage shed, I'd have no hesitation. The kit, 4 sheets of cheap plywood decking, 8 sheets of plywood siding, 24 2x4s, a couple rolls of tarpaper and a square of cheap shingles, and you're good to go with a 7'x8' shed for about $500. That's about $300 less than a pre-fab would run you, and it would be better built. Doing what they suggest and tripling up on kits to go to 10x22 though... it just seems understructured. Maybe if I bought 4 of the kits and moved everything to 16" centers; but I'd still be worried about the joist strength under the weight of a cabinet saw etc... and the long ridge beams. As it is, I'm planning on building a 12x16 shed, framed as I describe above; then sheeting the walls and insulating with spray in foam and a vapor barrier in case I want to put a shop cooler in. I’ve been thinking about their shed kits for a storage shed for about a year now… I need a shed big enough that I can work in it, but haven’t had the budget to build one.

If I use one of the 2X4 basics kits I can get the shed done for about 2/3 what stick building it the way I want to would cost… that means it would actually get done some time in the next few months rather than in a year or more when I have the budget.

The problem I have is, making a 10′x22′ structure with all 2×4 framing on 24″ centers just seems like a bad idea to me. If I were stick building it by hand I’d use 2×6 floor joists, rafters, and ridge beams; and I’d frame on 16″ centers for all but the rafters.

If I were just going for a small storage shed, I’d have no hesitation. The kit, 4 sheets of cheap plywood decking, 8 sheets of plywood siding, 24 2×4s, a couple rolls of tarpaper and a square of cheap shingles, and you’re good to go with a 7′x8′ shed for about $500. That’s about $300 less than a pre-fab would run you, and it would be better built.

Doing what they suggest and tripling up on kits to go to 10×22 though… it just seems understructured.

Maybe if I bought 4 of the kits and moved everything to 16″ centers; but I’d still be worried about the joist strength under the weight of a cabinet saw etc… and the long ridge beams.

As it is, I’m planning on building a 12×16 shed, framed as I describe above; then sheeting the walls and insulating with spray in foam and a vapor barrier in case I want to put a shop cooler in.

]]> by: shawn http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88022 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:16:00 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-88022 These are extremely cool. As someone who has more vision than ambition, & more stuff than storage this should work out very good for me. I am going to get some of these, to replace my first really bad attempt at making some shelves. What I like most about them is that if you move, you just take out the screws, & you have a stack of 2x4s & a bunch of these shelf pieces, so you can make a custom setup at your new house easily. I might also build the kids furniture out of these, since they will just destroy everything anyway. 2x4's are cheap. Then when they move out on there own, I can reclaim the pieces for garage storage, & stuff. These are extremely cool. As someone who has more vision than ambition, & more stuff than storage this should work out very good for me. I am going to get some of these, to replace my first really bad attempt at making some shelves. What I like most about them is that if you move, you just take out the screws, & you have a stack of 2×4s & a bunch of these shelf pieces, so you can make a custom setup at your new house easily. I might also build the kids furniture out of these, since they will just destroy everything anyway. 2×4’s are cheap. Then when they move out on there own, I can reclaim the pieces for garage storage, & stuff.

]]> by: Stuey http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-87945 Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:41:05 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/03/made-in-the-usa-build-shelves-the-lazy-way-easily/#comment-87945 These would make for a wonderful wedding or birthday present. *cough* HINT HINT HINT *cough* These would make for a wonderful wedding or birthday present.

*cough* HINT HINT HINT *cough*

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