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	<title>Comments on: Hot or Not? Black Flag&#8217;s Propane-Powered Bug Fogger</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin B</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-617225</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got it to actually start/light and fog - once.  The starter/ignition switch on this thing is a jok.  One use for $65... waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got it to actually start/light and fog - once.  The starter/ignition switch on this thing is a jok.  One use for $65&#8230; waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Don  Kay</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-383017</link>
		<dc:creator>Don  Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This "fogger" is a wonderful tool, fogs great, and in campgrounds when the bugs are out, no-one around complains of excess fog running through their site!  Yet there is a problem that I am sure "Black Flag" is aware of.  After some use, it leaks like a sieve!!  I say "Black Flag" is aware of, on the front of my operators manual, it states:  Do not return to retailer with problems, call "BF"!  Something to consider when purchasing.  I wish they would take care of this, in my area, it sells for $70.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;fogger&#8221; is a wonderful tool, fogs great, and in campgrounds when the bugs are out, no-one around complains of excess fog running through their site!  Yet there is a problem that I am sure &#8220;Black Flag&#8221; is aware of.  After some use, it leaks like a sieve!!  I say &#8220;Black Flag&#8221; is aware of, on the front of my operators manual, it states:  Do not return to retailer with problems, call &#8220;BF&#8221;!  Something to consider when purchasing.  I wish they would take care of this, in my area, it sells for $70.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonyv</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-375272</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonyv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had mine for 2 years don't know if the "juice" that comes with it actually kills anything but it fogs.

the trick is let it warm up 3-5 minutes when done fogging let stand alone 5 minutes make dure it's done "spitting" cause if it cools with any juice in it it will clog and it will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had mine for 2 years don&#8217;t know if the &#8220;juice&#8221; that comes with it actually kills anything but it fogs.</p>
<p>the trick is let it warm up 3-5 minutes when done fogging let stand alone 5 minutes make dure it&#8217;s done &#8220;spitting&#8221; cause if it cools with any juice in it it will clog and it will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: mud bucket</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-370200</link>
		<dc:creator>mud bucket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have used the electric model of this dating back to the 60s, and never have had any problems with that.

My electric"disappeared" during a move a few years ago, and I may have to check one of these out, as the property now precludes convenient use of a cord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have used the electric model of this dating back to the 60s, and never have had any problems with that.</p>
<p>My electric&#8221;disappeared&#8221; during a move a few years ago, and I may have to check one of these out, as the property now precludes convenient use of a cord.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nicolaus</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-370025</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nicolaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT HOT !!! Burned and bitten,looking for my reciept,bought it at lowes,tried and tried,kept thinking maby it was in the wrist,BULL THE PRODUCT STINKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT HOT !!! Burned and bitten,looking for my reciept,bought it at lowes,tried and tried,kept thinking maby it was in the wrist,BULL THE PRODUCT STINKS</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-88436</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a kid at camp a guy used to fog the campsite in the evening with a thing that looked like a chainsaw motor with a long exaust pipe.  The Mosquito juice was pumped into the hot exaust and it made fog.

Enter my fogger ... my lawn mower.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0005.jpg

I have an oil can with a flexable hose. Cut off the tip and insert it into a 3 ft. piece of copper tube.  Get a hose clamp the size of the oil can and a smaller one to join the can onto the lawnmower.  Drill a hole into the muffler twice the size of the copper tube.  Anchor the tube down to the mower cuz it will blow out of the hole.  Fill the can with Mosquito juice, fire the mower and pump the juice out of the can.  Great fogger.  Fire the fog into the bottom of a bush or hedge and let it rise and vanquish the biting foe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0007.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0006.jpg

One small problem I've found is the pressure of the exaust tends to push the juice back up the copper tube which makes you have to pump harder to get it down the tube.  To solve this I was going to put a football infating needle on the end of the copper tube and give that a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid at camp a guy used to fog the campsite in the evening with a thing that looked like a chainsaw motor with a long exaust pipe.  The Mosquito juice was pumped into the hot exaust and it made fog.</p>
<p>Enter my fogger &#8230; my lawn mower.<br />
<a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0005.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0005.jpg</a></p>
<p>I have an oil can with a flexable hose. Cut off the tip and insert it into a 3 ft. piece of copper tube.  Get a hose clamp the size of the oil can and a smaller one to join the can onto the lawnmower.  Drill a hole into the muffler twice the size of the copper tube.  Anchor the tube down to the mower cuz it will blow out of the hole.  Fill the can with Mosquito juice, fire the mower and pump the juice out of the can.  Great fogger.  Fire the fog into the bottom of a bush or hedge and let it rise and vanquish the biting foe.</p>
<p><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0007.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0007.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0006.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/bassman700/PICT0006.jpg</a></p>
<p>One small problem I&#8217;ve found is the pressure of the exaust tends to push the juice back up the copper tube which makes you have to pump harder to get it down the tube.  To solve this I was going to put a football infating needle on the end of the copper tube and give that a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Blind</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-80544</link>
		<dc:creator>Blind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.diyhappy.com/quick-and-dirty-mosquito-trap/

Could just do something like that too.  Much cheaper and less need to refill with ice</description>
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<p>Could just do something like that too.  Much cheaper and less need to refill with ice</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-80515</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another "bike behind the DDT truck" kid here; I'm never quite sure if it's that smoke that killed so many of my brain cells, or the stuff I encountered in college in the mid-70's...

That said, I'll pass on something like this, for two reasons: I definitely don't want to get rid of the beneficial bugs, and if I'm going to be outside long enough to warrant this, my granddaughters are likely to be with me and DDT truck from my youth nonwithstanding, I'm not willing to subject them to this.  I'll just keep up with trying to elminate as much breeding territory as I can, and use the topical poisons when we must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another &#8220;bike behind the DDT truck&#8221; kid here; I&#8217;m never quite sure if it&#8217;s that smoke that killed so many of my brain cells, or the stuff I encountered in college in the mid-70&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ll pass on something like this, for two reasons: I definitely don&#8217;t want to get rid of the beneficial bugs, and if I&#8217;m going to be outside long enough to warrant this, my granddaughters are likely to be with me and DDT truck from my youth nonwithstanding, I&#8217;m not willing to subject them to this.  I&#8217;ll just keep up with trying to elminate as much breeding territory as I can, and use the topical poisons when we must.</p>
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		<title>By: TMIB_Seattle</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-80165</link>
		<dc:creator>TMIB_Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to use these for concerts in small venues. If you use Roscolux fog juice in them they work great as a party fogger. Back then you could pick these up for under $50.

Of course if you do that, you need to use one that has *never* had bug killer in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to use these for concerts in small venues. If you use Roscolux fog juice in them they work great as a party fogger. Back then you could pick these up for under $50.</p>
<p>Of course if you do that, you need to use one that has *never* had bug killer in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel E.</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-80155</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Works great in nothern michigan in summer.  Have had good results in making a bug free vacation by using it in the early am with the wind still and at dusk.  Does have the downside of killing everything, but if it is only for occasional use....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Works great in nothern michigan in summer.  Have had good results in making a bug free vacation by using it in the early am with the wind still and at dusk.  Does have the downside of killing everything, but if it is only for occasional use&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-80136</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure I'd trust sending bug juice through a halloween fogger, health risks might outweigh the price difference</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d trust sending bug juice through a halloween fogger, health risks might outweigh the price difference</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Peterson</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-80003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've used them before a big outdoor party and they work great.  They are especially useful if you have a lot of weed/underbrush/ivy, etc where massive amounts of mosquitos hide out.

Plus pumping out massive amounts of smoke reminds me of my childhood chasing behind the anti-mosquito DDT smoker trucks that use to drive through the Southeast.

The huge downside is that it also nukes all the spiders and good insects that share the same habitat.  I'm looking forward to trying the hormone attractant water trap thing next spring to stop the breeding cycle before it gets heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used them before a big outdoor party and they work great.  They are especially useful if you have a lot of weed/underbrush/ivy, etc where massive amounts of mosquitos hide out.</p>
<p>Plus pumping out massive amounts of smoke reminds me of my childhood chasing behind the anti-mosquito DDT smoker trucks that use to drive through the Southeast.</p>
<p>The huge downside is that it also nukes all the spiders and good insects that share the same habitat.  I&#8217;m looking forward to trying the hormone attractant water trap thing next spring to stop the breeding cycle before it gets heavy.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterP</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-79970</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used an electric version fo the same product, and it was at least a little effective.  I'm not sure about the years removed from my life by standing in a large cloud of toxic smoke, though. 

You might consider, instead of this, getting one of those cheap fog machines from party City/Target/etc. They work on the same principle and if you got a timer you could set it up to do a periodic burst and give you long term coverage, instead of occasionally having to get up and re-fog. I've never tried it, but it should work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used an electric version fo the same product, and it was at least a little effective.  I&#8217;m not sure about the years removed from my life by standing in a large cloud of toxic smoke, though. </p>
<p>You might consider, instead of this, getting one of those cheap fog machines from party City/Target/etc. They work on the same principle and if you got a timer you could set it up to do a periodic burst and give you long term coverage, instead of occasionally having to get up and re-fog. I&#8217;ve never tried it, but it should work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jamesBrauer66</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/19/hot-or-not-black-flags-propane-powered-bug-fogger/#comment-79921</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesBrauer66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm partial to, and somewhat fascinated with,  Purge III.  Only licensed for use from a dispenser, but it drops bugs out of the sky.  It is hardcore bug killer.  I put one over the back door and we have bug free meals out there.  Put one over the trash can in the garage as well.  Mostly good for skeeters and flys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m partial to, and somewhat fascinated with,  Purge III.  Only licensed for use from a dispenser, but it drops bugs out of the sky.  It is hardcore bug killer.  I put one over the back door and we have bug free meals out there.  Put one over the trash can in the garage as well.  Mostly good for skeeters and flys.</p>
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		<title>By: Waylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven't use one so I can't say, but I did notice it is NOT included among the products with a 'Money Back Guarantee' [1] from the manufacturer. However, you can extend the warranty for a full year for free [2] if you register within 30 days of purchase. Not sure if that's a year total or a year in addition to an existing warranty.

[1]: http://www.blackflag.com/guarantee.php
[2]: http://warranty.thefountainheadgroup.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t use one so I can&#8217;t say, but I did notice it is NOT included among the products with a &#8216;Money Back Guarantee&#8217; [1] from the manufacturer. However, you can extend the warranty for a full year for free [2] if you register within 30 days of purchase. Not sure if that&#8217;s a year total or a year in addition to an existing warranty.</p>
<p>[1]: <a href="http://www.blackflag.com/guarantee.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackflag.com/guarantee.php</a><br />
[2]: <a href="http://warranty.thefountainheadgroup.com/" rel="nofollow">http://warranty.thefountainheadgroup.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mstudley</title>
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		<dc:creator>mstudley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If mosquitoes are the problem why not just setup a DIY 'mosquito magnet'.  Take a 5g bucket and stick a big chunk of dry ice in there and fill halfway with water.  Place it in a corner of your yard where you wouldn't mind the fog it produces and let the mosquitoes flock over there.

Heck of a lot cheaper than this product (although not quite the same) and worlds cheaper than the propane drive mosquito magnet which does essentially the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If mosquitoes are the problem why not just setup a DIY &#8216;mosquito magnet&#8217;.  Take a 5g bucket and stick a big chunk of dry ice in there and fill halfway with water.  Place it in a corner of your yard where you wouldn&#8217;t mind the fog it produces and let the mosquitoes flock over there.</p>
<p>Heck of a lot cheaper than this product (although not quite the same) and worlds cheaper than the propane drive mosquito magnet which does essentially the same thing.</p>
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