Comments on: Lower Quality Snap-on Branded Tools At Ace Hardware? http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:33:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Jake http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-226962 Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:41:02 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-226962 I just came back from Europe doing contract work for Uncle Sam and found it interesting that Snap-On is sold in retail stores at a fraction of the price that I was once paying on these trucks. The US apparently is the only place where the mobile tool industry is still surviving...but still on a steady decline. I've noted all the tool companies now have online stores, sometimes at prices (with free shipping) that undercut their truck sellers. Yet I still find it ironic that when it comes to buying Made in the USA items, mechanics have no quams when buying their computers, cell phones, clothing, and other electronics on where their manufactured, but get their panties in a wad when it comes to their tools. I guess it makes us feel patriotic knowing that tool is made in the USA even though we're installing foreign parts on those Chevy's and Fords... I just came back from Europe doing contract work for Uncle Sam and found it interesting that Snap-On is sold in retail stores at a fraction of the price that I was once paying on these trucks. The US apparently is the only place where the mobile tool industry is still surviving…but still on a steady decline.
I’ve noted all the tool companies now have online stores, sometimes at prices (with free shipping) that undercut their truck sellers.

Yet I still find it ironic that when it comes to buying Made in the USA items, mechanics have no quams when buying their computers, cell phones, clothing, and other electronics on where their manufactured, but get their panties in a wad when it comes to their tools. I guess it makes us feel patriotic knowing that tool is made in the USA even though we’re installing foreign parts on those Chevy’s and Fords…

]]> by: Darcy http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-115343 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:39:47 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-115343 I don't know everything that Snap-on owns, but they do own JH Williams (their industrial hand tool division) and Bahco, which now includes the Sandvik line. If you check the latest Willliams catalog, you will see a lot of Asian tools for the first time, more so that in the Snap-on catalog. It's a scary time for hand tool manufacturers, and it will get worse before it gets better. Someone I know who works for a major US hand tool manufacturer told me that it costs 40% less to make the same item in Asia. Also, in a survey I read that was in Tools of the Trade, I think, it was shown that tool buyers, especially younger ones, are more concerned with price, and 'American made' does not mean much to them. Everything is about price since they have grown up with the Wal-Mart big box mentality. The tool truck delivery system is a very expensive way to buy tools, even more so with top quality similar tools available online now. Also, many auto mechanics are hispanic and this seems to be growing very quickly into a typical employment path. Don't believe me? Just look at the cover of the latest Mac catalog and count the hispanics. These people don't have big money to spend on tools, and they have no loyalty to buy American. They're not Americans. Asian tools are good enough for them. I don’t know everything that Snap-on owns, but they do own JH Williams (their industrial hand tool division) and Bahco, which now includes the Sandvik line.

If you check the latest Willliams catalog, you will see a lot of Asian tools for the first time, more so that in the Snap-on catalog. It’s a scary time for hand tool manufacturers, and it will get worse before it gets better. Someone I know who works for a major US hand tool manufacturer told me that it costs 40% less to make the same item in Asia. Also, in a survey I read that was in Tools of the Trade, I think, it was shown that tool buyers, especially younger ones, are more concerned with price, and ‘American made’ does not mean much to them. Everything is about price since they have grown up with the Wal-Mart big box mentality.

The tool truck delivery system is a very expensive way to buy tools, even more so with top quality similar tools available online now. Also, many auto mechanics are hispanic and this seems to be growing very quickly into a typical employment path. Don’t believe me? Just look at the cover of the latest Mac catalog and count the hispanics. These people don’t have big money to spend on tools, and they have no loyalty to buy American. They’re not Americans. Asian tools are good enough for them.

]]> by: STEVE http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-94016 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:59:54 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-94016 SNAP-ON is looking to the bottom line for the stock holders and not to its dealer force. The value of "Snap-On" the name is dropping. The company is ripe for a take over and wouldnt surprise me to see it. Snap-On needs to get off its ass and start being proactive. like it used to be. Mac and Matco are comming up fast and may pass Snap-On. Watch out! SNAP-ON is looking to the bottom line for the stock holders and not to its dealer force. The value of “Snap-On” the name is dropping. The company is ripe for a take over and wouldnt surprise me to see it. Snap-On needs to get off its ass and start being proactive. like it used to be. Mac and Matco are comming up fast and may pass Snap-On. Watch out!

]]> by: Mike http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-85418 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:24:55 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-85418 This is only the beginning..... Snap on has to survive in the new competitive world of discount distributors and internet sales. The economics of a driver and a truck full of overhead delivering tools door to door is a very unfavorable competitive mismatch. Mak Tool, Matco, and Cornwell all face the same reality. Quality and brand equity still matter, but so does market share to the suits at Snap on. This is only the beginning….. Snap on has to survive in the new competitive world of discount distributors and internet sales. The economics of a driver and a truck full of overhead delivering tools door to door is a very unfavorable competitive mismatch. Mak Tool, Matco, and Cornwell all face the same reality.
Quality and brand equity still matter, but so does market share to the suits at Snap on.

]]> by: Arbyn http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-84456 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:57:28 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-84456 I manage our local Ace Hardware here in Coon Rapids Minnesota. We are now stocking three different flashlights and the gloves lable as "Snap On official licensed product" . The flashlights do have a lifetime warranty and are manufactured by JS Products Inc www.steelman-js.com The gloves are manufactured by Fortress Products LLC out of Pakista. www.fortressproducts.com I manage our local Ace Hardware here in Coon Rapids Minnesota. We are now stocking three different flashlights and the gloves lable as “Snap On official licensed product” . The flashlights do have a lifetime warranty and are manufactured by JS Products Inc www.steelman-js.com
The gloves are manufactured by Fortress Products LLC out of Pakista. www.fortressproducts.com

]]> by: Phil http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-78895 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:47:28 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-78895 I saw these in person about a week ago. The flashlights are imported (China) and the packages reads "Product officially licensed by Snap-On" or similar. While the lights themselves look decent, they arent much different than something made by Dorcy. I'm afraid these items exist to make the Harry Homeowners of the world feel they are getting the real deal and be able to show off to his friends that he's in with the big dogs. However, if this licensing deal goes too far, it will dilute the standing Snap-On has with those hard-core users of the real thing. I saw these in person about a week ago. The flashlights are imported (China) and the packages reads “Product officially licensed by Snap-On” or similar. While the lights themselves look decent, they arent much different than something made by Dorcy.

I’m afraid these items exist to make the Harry Homeowners of the world feel they are getting the real deal and be able to show off to his friends that he’s in with the big dogs. However, if this licensing deal goes too far, it will dilute the standing Snap-On has with those hard-core users of the real thing.

]]> by: Harry http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-77736 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:57:25 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-77736 I thought we already tallked about these items awhile back. Anyway, if you go to the Ace website, shop by brand, there are two pair of gloves, and 6 flashlights listed. These items aren't really mechanics tools and I still don't know why Snap on seeks exposure through Ace hardware. Snap on has expanded the Blue Point line of basic hand tools recently to offer Chinese made lower price alternatives to techs. The tools even come with a lifetime warranty too. Blue Point has meant many things over the years. It often was the brand label attached to a product that wasn't made by Snap on, like alot of those patented (by someone other than Snap on) vehicle specialty tools. Imported air tools also got the Blue Point tag. Hopefully, Snap on will not go the way of MAC and instead reserve its brand name for quality US made mechanic's tools. Otherwise "There won't be a Difference". I thought we already tallked about these items awhile back. Anyway, if you go to the Ace website, shop by brand, there are two pair of gloves, and 6 flashlights listed. These items aren’t really mechanics tools and I still don’t know why Snap on seeks exposure through Ace hardware.
Snap on has expanded the Blue Point line of basic hand tools recently to offer Chinese made lower price alternatives to techs. The tools even come with a lifetime warranty too. Blue Point has meant many things over the years. It often was the brand label attached to a product that wasn’t made by Snap on, like alot of those patented (by someone other than Snap on) vehicle specialty tools. Imported air tools also got the Blue Point tag. Hopefully, Snap on will not go the way of MAC and instead reserve its brand name for quality US made mechanic’s tools. Otherwise “There won’t be a Difference”.

]]> by: Steve Thompson http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-77458 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:24:13 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/06/15/lower-quality-snap-on-branded-tools-at-ace-hardware/#comment-77458 Doesn't Snap-On have their "Blue-Point" line of tools to address the lower end of the market? From the looks of these flashlights, Snap-On has gone the licensing route of Winchester, Harley-Davidson and others. The brand is just as for sale as the real products. Doesn’t Snap-On have their “Blue-Point” line of tools to address the lower end of the market? From the looks of these flashlights, Snap-On has gone the licensing route of Winchester, Harley-Davidson and others. The brand is just as for sale as the real products.

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