Comments on: Cheap-Ass Tools: HF’s Heavy-Duty 4×6 Bandsaw http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/ All tools. All the time. Your source for news, information, and reviews of hand tools, power tools, and tools of all kinds. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:46:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: roulette taktik http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-368378 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:26:44 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-368378 <strong>poker spiel zum downloaden</strong> Esempio scarica gioco poker gratis pacific poker play texas holdem juego texas holdem www poker poker spiel zum downloaden

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]]> by: shawn http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-58704 Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:01:46 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-58704 We have one of the old green ones built in the 80's &#38; it still works. The wheels stopped working years ago, &#38; it did need to be welded when the frame cracked, but it is still running on the original motor. We had a table for it that was made out of MDF that worked good. I've used the bandsaw for wood as much as I have for metal. The best thing about it is it shuts itself off once it finishes cutting. We have one of the old green ones built in the 80’s & it still works. The wheels stopped working years ago, & it did need to be welded when the frame cracked, but it is still running on the original motor. We had a table for it that was made out of MDF that worked good. I’ve used the bandsaw for wood as much as I have for metal. The best thing about it is it shuts itself off once it finishes cutting.

]]> by: Michael B http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-24502 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:57:41 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-24502 Used one of the HF saws all the time - the stand is certainly the weak spot, it is important that you "beef-it-up" a bit with a cross brace. I noticed that the noise level went down after bracing. Used one of the HF saws all the time - the stand is certainly the weak spot, it is important that you “beef-it-up” a bit with a cross brace. I noticed that the noise level went down after bracing.

]]> by: Toolmonger » Blog Archive » You Said It: Pimping Your Bandsaw http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21924 Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:21:31 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21924 [...] Comments on Cheap-Ass Tools: HF&#8217;s Heavy-Duty 4&#215;6 Bandsaw [...] […] Comments on Cheap-Ass Tools: HF’s Heavy-Duty 4×6 Bandsaw […]

]]> by: MikeR http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21511 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:09:38 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21511 "I know it will take up too much room in my shop" These actually have a pretty small footprint, IMO. My "shop" is a carport and it tucks away into a corner pretty well. It's a little tough to get a sense of scale in the photos, but these are pretty compact compared to most semi-stationary tools. Also, don't forget to try to use one of the 20% coupons floating around on the interweb at a HF store. I struck when it was on sale for $159.99 and walked out of the store with it for $128! As a hobbyist, this is the best bargain tool purchase I've ever made. “I know it will take up too much room in my shop”

These actually have a pretty small footprint, IMO. My “shop” is a carport and it tucks away into a corner pretty well. It’s a little tough to get a sense of scale in the photos, but these are pretty compact compared to most semi-stationary tools.

Also, don’t forget to try to use one of the 20% coupons floating around on the interweb at a HF store. I struck when it was on sale for $159.99 and walked out of the store with it for $128! As a hobbyist, this is the best bargain tool purchase I’ve ever made.

]]> by: James B http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21489 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:13:39 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21489 I put a Baldor motor wired for 220v into mine. With the new blade it helped quite a bit. I use mine mostly for things that are too thick for the abrasive cutoff saw. Cut 2" solid round steel stock, blocks of aluminum, etc. The motor doesn't bog anymore, but the tension adjustment is pretty bad and the blade jumps off the wheels and/or slips quite a bit. tip: use a spring clamp to hold the blade on the top wheel while rolling the other end onto the bottom wheel I put a Baldor motor wired for 220v into mine. With the new blade it helped quite a bit. I use mine mostly for things that are too thick for the abrasive cutoff saw. Cut 2″ solid round steel stock, blocks of aluminum, etc. The motor doesn’t bog anymore, but the tension adjustment is pretty bad and the blade jumps off the wheels and/or slips quite a bit.

tip: use a spring clamp to hold the blade on the top wheel while rolling the other end onto the bottom wheel

]]> by: Rick http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21468 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:03:19 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21468 Sigh.. It's too bad I've got about $1500 in parts to buy for my car before I can buy a welder and one of these bandsaws and get more into metalworking. A good site I've found for modifications to this and similar bandsaws is http://www.frugalmachinist.com - It's down at the moment, but I really hope that's just a temporary situation. Sigh..
It’s too bad I’ve got about $1500 in parts to buy for my car before I can buy a welder and one of these bandsaws and get more into metalworking.

A good site I’ve found for modifications to this and similar bandsaws is http://www.frugalmachinist.com - It’s down at the moment, but I really hope that’s just a temporary situation.

]]> by: TimG http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21424 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:18:47 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21424 I can easily say I'll probably buy one of these (well the available to Canada equivalent) in the next 2-3 years. I know it will take up too much room in my shop, but for any sort of metal fabrication it will be a requirement. I love how it can be used horizontally and vertically (to cut out sheet metal, etc). I also love the fact that the online community is embracing these Chinesse tools. I think the 'China Era' of tools is actually awesome, as I can afford to get into the game.. maybe not with the 'best' tools, but ones that can get the job done for a price I can afford and justify. Tim I can easily say I’ll probably buy one of these (well the available to Canada equivalent) in the next 2-3 years. I know it will take up too much room in my shop, but for any sort of metal fabrication it will be a requirement. I love how it can be used horizontally and vertically (to cut out sheet metal, etc).

I also love the fact that the online community is embracing these Chinesse tools. I think the ‘China Era’ of tools is actually awesome, as I can afford to get into the game.. maybe not with the ‘best’ tools, but ones that can get the job done for a price I can afford and justify.

Tim

]]> by: Paul http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21422 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:12:16 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21422 MikeR says "it’s the quietest cutting power tool that I own!" Yeah I call mine my beer drinking tool. In the horizontal position once it is started, I can go off and drink a beer in peace while it is doing its thing. Cybergibbons asks "What can you fabricate with one of these that you can’t with a hacksaw?" Bwahahahaha cough, choke ahem, OK let me compose myself a moment here. Have you ever tried sawing through a piece of railroad track with a hacksaw? As cheap as these 4x6 saws are if you pay attention to setting them up they are amazingly accurate in their cuts too. As in your cuts come out very square etc. I've lived without one and now I am living with one, and without one I didn't start too many projects, and the ones that I did make had a very rough look to them. The bandsaw is the first step in metal fabricating. Sizing stock is job 1. Sometimes it is the only machining step one needs to do in order to fabricate something. 3" C channel is one of my favorite structural shapes to work with. I call it steel 2x4s. It has the strength I am typically looking for in a part. And the shape, I mean what could be handier? And I just can't imagine hacksawing through this stuff once, let alone the dozens of times it typically takes me to make something. And even if I did manage to hacksaw through a piece of this stuff, I can well imagine how cockeyed the cut would be. In short, the bandsaw is step one, and often the only machining operation one must perform in order to fabricate something. People often walk around with images of lathes, or mills in their minds, only to find out that the bandsaw was the first machine they should have aquired. Roscoe asks "what exactly have you guys done to “pimp out” your saws?" Well I have an older 4x6 and it came with the ultra crappy flapping in the breeze sheet metal stand, so I put a crossbar between the stand legs to stiffen that up. Then the wheels my saw came from were like a bad joke or something, so I made a dolly for my saw, and took the joke wheels off of it. That is all I have done to mine. I still need to make a better table for using my saw in the vertical position. The stamped piece of junk that the saw comes with is just about worthless to use. I have made a piece of MDF that is better. I have to do better than that though. MikeR says “it’s the quietest cutting power tool that I own!” Yeah I call mine my beer drinking tool. In the horizontal position once it is started, I can go off and drink a beer in peace while it is doing its thing.

Cybergibbons asks “What can you fabricate with one of these that you can’t with a hacksaw?”

Bwahahahaha cough, choke ahem, OK let me compose myself a moment here. Have you ever tried sawing through a piece of railroad track with a hacksaw? As cheap as these 4×6 saws are if you pay attention to setting them up they are amazingly accurate in their cuts too. As in your cuts come out very square etc. I’ve lived without one and now I am living with one, and without one I didn’t start too many projects, and the ones that I did make had a very rough look to them.

The bandsaw is the first step in metal fabricating. Sizing stock is job 1. Sometimes it is the only machining step one needs to do in order to fabricate something.

3″ C channel is one of my favorite structural shapes to work with. I call it steel 2×4s. It has the strength I am typically looking for in a part. And the shape, I mean what could be handier? And I just can’t imagine hacksawing through this stuff once, let alone the dozens of times it typically takes me to make something. And even if I did manage to hacksaw through a piece of this stuff, I can well imagine how cockeyed the cut would be.

In short, the bandsaw is step one, and often the only machining operation one must perform in order to fabricate something. People often walk around with images of lathes, or mills in their minds, only to find out that the bandsaw was the first machine they should have aquired.

Roscoe asks “what exactly have you guys done to “pimp out” your saws?”

Well I have an older 4×6 and it came with the ultra crappy flapping in the breeze sheet metal stand, so I put a crossbar between the stand legs to stiffen that up. Then the wheels my saw came from were like a bad joke or something, so I made a dolly for my saw, and took the joke wheels off of it. That is all I have done to mine. I still need to make a better table for using my saw in the vertical position. The stamped piece of junk that the saw comes with is just about worthless to use. I have made a piece of MDF that is better. I have to do better than that though.

]]> by: Cybergibbons http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21390 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:18:02 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21390 What can you fabricate with one of these that you can't with a hacksaw? I don't doubt their utility - it was the only tool I regularly used to go to the blacksmiths down the road to use, and I use one all the time at work, but it's simply because I'm lazy. What can you fabricate with one of these that you can’t with a hacksaw? I don’t doubt their utility - it was the only tool I regularly used to go to the blacksmiths down the road to use, and I use one all the time at work, but it’s simply because I’m lazy.

]]> by: Roscoe http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21334 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:32:54 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21334 I'll bite- what exactly have you guys done to "pimp out" your saws? We've got a Jet in the shop and use it occasionally, but it's pretty stock. I’ll bite- what exactly have you guys done to “pimp out” your saws? We’ve got a Jet in the shop and use it occasionally, but it’s pretty stock.

]]> by: nrChris http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21322 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:05:43 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21322 Two things that I have learned about band saws: they are very easy to improve upon with the right base, blades, and setup. And tuning is what makes the saw work or not--I have found that the better saws shine in tuning--they are easier to tune and dial in consistently--where my cheapo Craftsman is all over the place. I wind up spending more time tuning than cutting--which is not the case with the big Powermatic at work. Two things that I have learned about band saws: they are very easy to improve upon with the right base, blades, and setup. And tuning is what makes the saw work or not–I have found that the better saws shine in tuning–they are easier to tune and dial in consistently–where my cheapo Craftsman is all over the place. I wind up spending more time tuning than cutting–which is not the case with the big Powermatic at work.

]]> by: Nick Carter http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21314 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:35:43 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21314 Almost every project begins with the 4x6 saw. I have two Jets, but the HF one certainly is just as well made as the newer Jet I have (the older one is made in Taiwan...when Jet products were green rather than white) They are easy to, um, Pimp Out. I've added a better and longer stock stop, and a larger plate for cutting in the vertical mode (without having to bolt on the flimsy sheetmetal table). I use a 10/14 tooth US made blade on mine. Almost every project begins with the 4×6 saw. I have two Jets, but the HF one certainly is just as well made as the newer Jet I have (the older one is made in Taiwan…when Jet products were green rather than white)

They are easy to, um, Pimp Out. I’ve added a better and longer stock stop, and a larger plate for cutting in the vertical mode (without having to bolt on the flimsy sheetmetal table).

I use a 10/14 tooth US made blade on mine.

]]> by: MikeR http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21296 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:26:48 +0000 http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/12/cheap-ass-tools-hfs-heavy-duty-4x6-bandsaw/#comment-21296 I purchased the red one recently and it's the quietest cutting power tool that I own! Apartment living requires me to buy the quietest tools possible (as a hobbyist woodworker and metal worker, it's usually very difficult), and the HF 4x6 is almost quiet enough to use at night, on certain metals at least (flat bar and tubing, for instance, cut really quietly for me). Just don't forget to trash the stock blade (it's not even worth trying)! Lots of recommendations online for alternatives... I'm happy w/Lenox. I purchased the red one recently and it’s the quietest cutting power tool that I own! Apartment living requires me to buy the quietest tools possible (as a hobbyist woodworker and metal worker, it’s usually very difficult), and the HF 4×6 is almost quiet enough to use at night, on certain metals at least (flat bar and tubing, for instance, cut really quietly for me).

Just don’t forget to trash the stock blade (it’s not even worth trying)! Lots of recommendations online for alternatives… I’m happy w/Lenox.

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