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	<title>Comments on: Hands-On: W.R. Case&#8217;s Red CV Pocket Knives</title>
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		<title>by: Toolmonger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Back In The Day: A Year Ago This Week On Toolmonger</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-153420</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] And we carried Case&amp;#8217;s Red CV pocket knives for a month and reported our findings. In short: they&amp;#8217;re nice knives. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] And we carried Case&#8217;s Red CV pocket knives for a month and reported our findings. In short: they&#8217;re nice knives. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: knifetinkerer</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-124185</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd sharpen and polish a katana myself with a belt sander, Arkansas stones, and a buffing wheel, and it would take maybe half a day. But then again I'm not personally involved in the production or maintenance of museum pieces, as you can probably tell from a glance at my website..

As for rust, I live in a dry climate and yet find it necessary to leave a light coat of pharmaceutical mineral oil on my 10xx carbon blades. Any humidity is enough to get annoying red rust started. And it's weird-- one knife will spontaneously rust next to five others that don't. So I keep the water away with a little oil.

Love Case knives, this review, and old slipjoints in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d sharpen and polish a katana myself with a belt sander, Arkansas stones, and a buffing wheel, and it would take maybe half a day. But then again I&#8217;m not personally involved in the production or maintenance of museum pieces, as you can probably tell from a glance at my website..</p>
<p>As for rust, I live in a dry climate and yet find it necessary to leave a light coat of pharmaceutical mineral oil on my 10xx carbon blades. Any humidity is enough to get annoying red rust started. And it&#8217;s weird&#8211; one knife will spontaneously rust next to five others that don&#8217;t. So I keep the water away with a little oil.</p>
<p>Love Case knives, this review, and old slipjoints in general.
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		<title>by: Dick Hickson</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-57891</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have no problem keeping my Case CV pocketknife rust free. I just make sure to keep it clean and dry, that's it. I don't even oil the blades other than every once in a blue moon. A dry blade won't rust, not even a carbon steel blade. And man o man do these knives take a great edge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem keeping my Case CV pocketknife rust free. I just make sure to keep it clean and dry, that&#8217;s it. I don&#8217;t even oil the blades other than every once in a blue moon. A dry blade won&#8217;t rust, not even a carbon steel blade. And man o man do these knives take a great edge.
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		<title>by: Jay</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-11762</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-11762</guid>
					<description>Thank for the excellent review on Case knives as actual tools.  Case knives with CV blades are great!.  They are handcrafted so no two are exactly alike (bone handles mainly) and CV can be easily brought to a razor edge with a regular sharpening stone.  They are not stainless so they can rust, but I don't work around a lot of water and it's not a real problem.  

Some comments on a prior post: ZDP-189 I understand is a great steel.  I'm guessing it is harder to sharpen and one will need a diamond sharpener (which makes life easier in the shop anyway).  Plus, I don't know of a stockman pattern made in ZDP-189.  I like traditional knives.  Lastly, if a stockman was made in ZDP-189 it would probably cost 2-3 times as much.  I am prone to abusing my working knives.  Browning I think offers a stockman (or did) in AUS-8 which is a very nice stainless.  It is no ZDP-189, but still very nice.  The CV will still be easier to sharpen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank for the excellent review on Case knives as actual tools.  Case knives with CV blades are great!.  They are handcrafted so no two are exactly alike (bone handles mainly) and CV can be easily brought to a razor edge with a regular sharpening stone.  They are not stainless so they can rust, but I don&#8217;t work around a lot of water and it&#8217;s not a real problem.  </p>
<p>Some comments on a prior post: ZDP-189 I understand is a great steel.  I&#8217;m guessing it is harder to sharpen and one will need a diamond sharpener (which makes life easier in the shop anyway).  Plus, I don&#8217;t know of a stockman pattern made in ZDP-189.  I like traditional knives.  Lastly, if a stockman was made in ZDP-189 it would probably cost 2-3 times as much.  I am prone to abusing my working knives.  Browning I think offers a stockman (or did) in AUS-8 which is a very nice stainless.  It is no ZDP-189, but still very nice.  The CV will still be easier to sharpen.
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		<title>by: Chuck Cage</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-4256</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-4256</guid>
					<description>Great information!

re: swords -- The correct term, I suppose, would be &quot;Hanzo-style&quot; as the swords in question were made by a master bladesmith in Japan using the same methodology.  Make sense?

re: CV -- As we're primarily a tool site, the CV knives caught our attention not because the alloy was particularly &quot;original&quot; as much as because we figured the composition would strike a chord with other toolaholics.

Thanks for the great comments.  You sound like you're pretty seriously into blades!  Have you done some work in the field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information!</p>
<p>re: swords &#8212; The correct term, I suppose, would be &#8220;Hanzo-style&#8221; as the swords in question were made by a master bladesmith in Japan using the same methodology.  Make sense?</p>
<p>re: CV &#8212; As we&#8217;re primarily a tool site, the CV knives caught our attention not because the alloy was particularly &#8220;original&#8221; as much as because we figured the composition would strike a chord with other toolaholics.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great comments.  You sound like you&#8217;re pretty seriously into blades!  Have you done some work in the field?
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		<title>by: NarcolepticDoc</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-4255</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The simple fact of the matter is that there is NO such thing as a 'real' Hanzo katana, because the swordsmith in the movie is a fictional character.  There is a historical record of a real 'Hatori Hanzo, but he wasn't a swordsmith.

http://www.shopusmore.com/articles/hattori_hanzo.html

The very fact that you're even talking about 'Hanzo Katanas' speaks volumes about the likelihood of those being real japanese swords  (as opposed to 'sword like objects') or of your sharpener being somebody who's qualified to properly polish a valuable sword (of which there are very few westerners). 

http://www.bigempire.com/sake/sword.html

&quot;Working 10 to 12 hours a day, the entire polish could take a couple weeks. A typical charge, including the polish, a new sheath, and any adjustments needed to the handle, is roughly 400,000 yen.&quot;  That's about $4000 USD for a polish on a single sword.

Either way 'Chrome Vanadium' is hardly a unique combination of alloys in a stainless, nor is it even a valid descriptor of a particular steel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple fact of the matter is that there is NO such thing as a &#8216;real&#8217; Hanzo katana, because the swordsmith in the movie is a fictional character.  There is a historical record of a real &#8216;Hatori Hanzo, but he wasn&#8217;t a swordsmith.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.shopusmore.com/articles/hattori_hanzo.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.shopusmore.com/articles/hattori_hanzo.html</a></p>
<p>The very fact that you&#8217;re even talking about &#8216;Hanzo Katanas&#8217; speaks volumes about the likelihood of those being real japanese swords  (as opposed to &#8217;sword like objects&#8217;) or of your sharpener being somebody who&#8217;s qualified to properly polish a valuable sword (of which there are very few westerners). </p>
<p><a href='http://www.bigempire.com/sake/sword.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.bigempire.com/sake/sword.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Working 10 to 12 hours a day, the entire polish could take a couple weeks. A typical charge, including the polish, a new sheath, and any adjustments needed to the handle, is roughly 400,000 yen.&#8221;  That&#8217;s about $4000 USD for a polish on a single sword.</p>
<p>Either way &#8216;Chrome Vanadium&#8217; is hardly a unique combination of alloys in a stainless, nor is it even a valid descriptor of a particular steel.
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		<title>by: Chuck Cage</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-4249</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>NarcolepticDoc:  It's funny; He suggested that we not mention the Hanzos because we'd immediately see comments on how they're fakes.  

The short take:  We did, anyway.  He was right.  They're not fake.  He is a &quot;specialist&quot; in a number of areas of sharpening.  That's why we go to him.  That's why we mentioned the Hanzos -- real ones are rare and difficult to sharpen, and it's the kind of thing he does -- and that helps others to understand why we value his opinion.

Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NarcolepticDoc:  It&#8217;s funny; He suggested that we not mention the Hanzos because we&#8217;d immediately see comments on how they&#8217;re fakes.  </p>
<p>The short take:  We did, anyway.  He was right.  They&#8217;re not fake.  He is a &#8220;specialist&#8221; in a number of areas of sharpening.  That&#8217;s why we go to him.  That&#8217;s why we mentioned the Hanzos &#8212; real ones are rare and difficult to sharpen, and it&#8217;s the kind of thing he does &#8212; and that helps others to understand why we value his opinion.</p>
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		<title>by: NarcolepticDoc</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-4221</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you want to start talking about newer blade steels, I'd suggest you head over to bladeforums.com.  The stuff used in the Case knives is nothing special compared to the newer cutlery steels out these days.  For example, ZDP-189 has a working hardness of up to 67rc, resulting in amazing edge retention.

As for the opinion of your professional sharpener, the sharpening (or polishing rather, they're one in the same with these swords) of traditional japanese swords is an art form in and of itself.  Having a real sword polished by a non-specialist will pretty much ruin it.  A &quot;Hanzo Kantana&quot; sounds like one of the cheap replicas styled after the Kill Bill movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to start talking about newer blade steels, I&#8217;d suggest you head over to bladeforums.com.  The stuff used in the Case knives is nothing special compared to the newer cutlery steels out these days.  For example, ZDP-189 has a working hardness of up to 67rc, resulting in amazing edge retention.</p>
<p>As for the opinion of your professional sharpener, the sharpening (or polishing rather, they&#8217;re one in the same with these swords) of traditional japanese swords is an art form in and of itself.  Having a real sword polished by a non-specialist will pretty much ruin it.  A &#8220;Hanzo Kantana&#8221; sounds like one of the cheap replicas styled after the Kill Bill movies.
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		<title>by: Toolmonger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Toolmonger&#8217;s Top 5: The Week in Tools</title>
		<link>http://toolmonger.com/2006/11/18/hands-on-wr-case-cos-red-cv-pocket-knives/#comment-4188</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Hands-On: W.R. Case&amp;#8217;s Red CV Pocket Knives With a little goading we put aside our daily-carry pocket knives to try out a couple from Case&amp;#8217;s new Red CV series.  Their covers are made of red-tinted bone, and they feature blades made of chrome vanadium &amp;#8212; an alloy near to any Toolmonger&amp;#8217;s heart.  We carried &amp;#8216;em, used &amp;#8216;em, and abused &amp;#8216;em for two weeks straight and report our findings. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Hands-On: W.R. Case&#8217;s Red CV Pocket Knives With a little goading we put aside our daily-carry pocket knives to try out a couple from Case&#8217;s new Red CV series.  Their covers are made of red-tinted bone, and they feature blades made of chrome vanadium &#8212; an alloy near to any Toolmonger&#8217;s heart.  We carried &#8216;em, used &#8216;em, and abused &#8216;em for two weeks straight and report our findings. [&#8230;]
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